[Papyrus-L] Possible alternatives to Papyrus

[Loren Coen]

No trouble with XP creating right pif file, its newer Windows

 

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Subject: Re: [Papyrus-L] Possible alternatives to Papyrus

 

I still run Papyrus, in a DOS box under Windows XP. I've been using it since
I started my doctoral thesis in 1993, and I now have 96273 references on the
database. I haven't found an alternative that handles keywords and notecards
(or equivalents) so well, and Papyrus is also beautifully designed. So I
continue to use it despite the fact you can no longer paste easily between
it and Word, and you can't run the auto-extract routine on Word documents,
and outputting references as a formatted list that preserves foreign
accented characters is a pain requiring one to open the file using WordPad
as MS-Dos text, then save as a Word file, etc...  But I've got too much
invested in it to change, and conversion routines to Reference Manager etc.
seem to lose the notecards...

I know the topic of updating the software was discussed a number of years
ago, but if there is a chance of developing a version for Windows, I and
many others would love to see it !

Meanwhile, does anyone have anyone work-arounds or fixes for the issues
above...?

best wishes, and thanks again to Dave for creating a fantastic program in
the first place,



Andrew Wilson
Professor of the Archaeology of the Roman Empire
Institute of Archaeology
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On 10/02/2011 16:12, James Mallet wrote: 

I changed over to Reference Manager a few years ago now (see prev. posts),
but I agree with Raisa that Papyrus was very user friendly. I too would love
to see updated Papyrus for newer windowing operating systems.

There are still some really annoying things with Reference Manager and
probably Endnote too. 

One is that, now that Thomson/ISI have a virtual monopoly of bibliographic
software (Endnote, Reference Manager, and ProCite), they don't ever seem to
bother fix the obvious annoyances with their systems.  Probably for the same
reason, the programs are also very expensive for what they do. In spite of
not fixing up the program much, they frequently issue new versions, which
all cost more as well.

I've heard Zotero is good (and open source), but others have told me that's
annoying too, and you have to run it through Mozilla Firefox.

The new one I've heard about is Mendeley http://www.mendeley.com/ .  As I
understand it you can keep your references online with them, format
references for journals, cooperate with word processors, as well as link
PDFs and share references and online PDFs with your research group and/or
friends. And it's completely free. Sounds kind of like a music sharing site.


However, I suppose it's on the cards that they'll start charging after a
while when they have people hooked -- I am not sure how they are financed. I
also worry about what happens when the web goes down and you need your
references. Perhaps they have some local program as well...

Endnote Web is also similar, I've been told by Hungarian friends, though
since I don't use Endnote I haven't tried it.

j



At 15:45 10/02/2011, you wrote:



Hi, Dave.  Wonderful to hear from you.
Any possibility of extending Papyrus to work with newer operating  
systems?  I'm clinging to my old office Mac so I can run Classic  
under Tiger; at home, I'm using DOSBOX under Snow Leopard (along with  
Word for DOS).  All so I can run Papyrus.  Which is still head and  
shoulders above the competition.
Raisa Deber
On 10-Feb-11, at 12:18 AM, Dave Goldman wrote:




There haven't been any posts here for several months, so I thought  
I'd better confirm that the listserv system is still working!

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