[Papyrus-L] Possible alternatives to Papyrus

Raisa Deber raisa.deber at utoronto.ca
Thu Feb 10 13:09:57 EST 2011


See, Dave. We still care!
My key annoyance came when I was trying to cooperate with a colleague
using Endnote, so we dutifully exported the references... And
everything written by the World Health Organization came out as
Organization, WH. Evidently, if you then go in and put commas after
the author name, it will be happy, so we then manually edited the
transfer files....
Not to mention the key advantage of Papyrus in letting you use a
single stable reference number which can then be used for filing
documents (electronic or otherwise); way better for a team than
assuming that everyone has everything linked on their own private
machine. Again, Endnote has a workaround, which sometimes works...
I've been recommending that students see if they can run DOS emulators.
Raisa Deber

On 10-Feb-11, at 11:12 AM, James Mallet wrote:


> I changed over to Reference Manager a few years ago now (see prev.

> posts), but I agree with Raisa that Papyrus was very user friendly.

> I too would love to see updated Papyrus for newer windowing

> operating systems.

>

> There are still some really annoying things with Reference Manager

> and probably Endnote too.

>

> One is that, now that Thomson/ISI have a virtual monopoly of

> bibliographic software (Endnote, Reference Manager, and ProCite),

> they don't ever seem to bother fix the obvious annoyances with

> their systems. Probably for the same reason, the programs are also

> very expensive for what they do. In spite of not fixing up the

> program much, they frequently issue new versions, which all cost

> more as well.

>

> I've heard Zotero is good (and open source), but others have told

> me that's annoying too, and you have to run it through Mozilla

> Firefox.

>

> The new one I've heard about is Mendeley http://

> www.mendeley.com/ . As I understand it you can keep your

> references online with them, format references for journals,

> cooperate with word processors, as well as link PDFs and share

> references and online PDFs with your research group and/or friends.

> And it's completely free. Sounds kind of like a music sharing site.

>

> However, I suppose it's on the cards that they'll start charging

> after a while when they have people hooked -- I am not sure how

> they are financed. I also worry about what happens when the web

> goes down and you need your references. Perhaps they have some

> local program as well...

>

> Endnote Web is also similar, I've been told by Hungarian friends,

> though since I don't use Endnote I haven't tried it.

>

> j

>

>

>

> At 15:45 10/02/2011, you wrote:

>> Hi, Dave. Wonderful to hear from you.

>> Any possibility of extending Papyrus to work with newer operating

>> systems? I'm clinging to my old office Mac so I can run Classic

>> under Tiger; at home, I'm using DOSBOX under Snow Leopard (along with

>> Word for DOS). All so I can run Papyrus. Which is still head and

>> shoulders above the competition.

>> Raisa Deber

>> On 10-Feb-11, at 12:18 AM, Dave Goldman wrote:

>>

>>> There haven't been any posts here for several months, so I thought

>>> I'd better confirm that the listserv system is still working!

>>>

>>> --

>>> Dave Goldman (dave at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com)

>>>

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>>

>> Raisa Deber, PhD

>> Professor, Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation

>> Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto

>> Director, CIHR Team in Community Care and Health Human Resources

>> (www.teamgrant.ca )

>> Health Sciences Building

>> 155 College Street Suite 425

>> Toronto, ON M5T 3M6

>> phone: (416) 978-8366

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>> e-mail: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca

>>

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Raisa Deber, PhD
Professor, Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation
Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto
Director, CIHR Team in Community Care and Health Human Resources
(www.teamgrant.ca)
Health Sciences Building
155 College Street Suite 425
Toronto, ON M5T 3M6
phone: (416) 978-8366
fax: (416) 978-7350
e-mail: raisa.deber at utoronto.ca




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