[Coco] Looking for Glenside IDE Controller documentation

Wed May 25 19:54:36 EDT 2016

Hi Bill,

I just received my "loaner" Glenside IDE controller and see what you mean
about the cart headers on the board.  There looks to be 2 of them and
neither are populated.  Since this is a board I'm borrowing, I will not add
them to it.  I see the address jumper you are talking about (it's currently
set to FF70).  I also see a jumper labeled "L1" though it's open right
now.  No idea what that is for.  The board itself is labeled "IDE HD
INTERFACE REV 1.0"

It looks like I will need to use an MPI for now.  Not a big deal, other
than the additional desk space and power requirements.

Thanks

-Ron

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org> wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>
> I appreciate you responding and trying to get in touch with Brian for me.
> I had heard he was the person to talk to about the Glenside controllers and
> sent him a private email on May 20th, but have not received a response.
> Hopefully he will respond and have some good news about controller
> availability.
>
> I'm glad to hear there is some updated documentation, it's just a matter
> of getting it now.  Everything you said makes sense and I especially like
> the idea that the interface that's being "loaned" to me (thanks Camillus!)
> may have a second cart connector so I won't have to bust out an MPI.  I'll
> know soon as it's on its way to me, though I would still like to acquire a
> controller for myself.  If I may ask, could you please share the
> documentation and disk if you are able to obtain it?
>
> Thanks again for the info!
>
> -Ron
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Bill Pierce via Coco <
> coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> Ron, I have sent an email to Brian Goers who is heading up the Glenside
>> IDE project. He posted a while back that a new setup disk and documentation
>> was available, but never posted any links. I think he's been busy with
>> other stuff and hasn't been monitoring the list much lately so he probably
>> didn't see your request. Maybe he'll get back to me soon. I have a Glenside
>> IDE and would like the new disk and docs as well.
>>
>> BTW, yes, there's a jumper to select between xFF50 and xFF70 range to
>> avoid conflicts with other carts. I use mine with an MPI and FD-502
>> controller and it works well (along with MIDIpak & Orch90 carts).
>>
>> The setup disk "should" help in setting up the drivers/descriptors as
>> well as partitions. The old software did this but was out of date and
>> didn't match the new SuperDriver for NitrOS9. I had to modify my
>> descriptors manually to get them to work. From what I read, this has been
>> resolved and the new setup software should be NitrOS9 3.3.0 compatible.
>>
>> The cool thing about the Glenside IDE are the 2 headers on the board for
>> plugging in 2 carts. This was including as extra and may or may not be on
>> your board. The holes for the headers are present, but the header
>> connectors themselves were optional. Mine can with one installed and the
>> second blank so I can plug the IDE board into a Coco with no MPI and also
>> plug a disk controller into the board :-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org>
>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2016 10:01 am
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Looking for Glenside IDE Controller documentation
>>
>> Hi Jim,I wasn't exactly sure.  I figured there must be some documentation
>> thatexplains how to use it in OS-9/NitroOS9, base address configuration (if
>> youare using it along side of a floppy controller), etc..  Not even sure
>> ifthere are any jumpers on the board as I don't have it just yet.
>> Theschematics might be nice to have for it if you are willing to provide
>> them.As an FYI for everyone -- I know there are more modern storage
>> solutionsout there (i.e. CoCoSDC, Drivewire which I use) but needed a
>> Cloud-9SuperIDE or Glenside IDE controller for use with John Linville's
>> Cocovidproject.  I stumbled across his Cocovid player a few weeks back and
>> wasimmensely impressed it.  The idea of playing/streaming videos,
>> YouTubeclips, movies, etc., on the Coco seemed very cool to me.  John's
>> ability tore-encode videos to use 256 colors was an added bonus (via
>> artifacts, butthey are all there).  Frankly, I'm surprised by the lack of
>> interest in itas I didn't really see any discussions about it in this
>> mailing list.In any case, there are many components to the Cocovid project,
>> includingthe requirement of pre-processing video files (under Linux for
>> now) priorto playing on the Coco.  John did provide some basic
>> documentation, but itcould use some improvements (which I'm working on
>> now).  In fact, I'm alsoworking on porting over the pre-processing
>> automation to work under Windowsas well.The actual Cocovid player is all
>> assembly and accesses the Coco hardware ata very low level.  John developed
>> project for use with an IDE based harddrive controller, so it's not
>> compatible with the newer storage devices.There's also the ability to use a
>> hard drive image with MESS (well, MAMEnow), but you lose the artifact
>> colors so playing these videos on actualCoco hardware is the best option.
>> This is the reason I am looking foreither IDE controller.For now, it's
>> great as it is and I've really enjoyed working with it!Watching the Minions
>> movie, the original Matrix or even many of Stevie'sCoco game demos from
>> Youtube is a very surreal experience knowing that it'sall done on a 512k
>> Coco 3.I'm hoping that others will find an interest in John's Cocovid
>> player aswell.  I plan on sharing all the updated documentation soon (after
>> Johnreviews it) so it will be much easier for folks to get it up and
>> runningquickly.  Perhaps others (with way more talent than I have) might
>> find away to get it to work with the newer storage solutions and open
>> thisproject up to an even wider audience.Thanks for allowing me to ramble a
>> bit...-RonOn Mon, May 23, 2016 at 9:56 PM, RETRO Innovations <
>> go4retro at go4retro.com>wrote:> On 5/23/2016 12:41 PM, Ron Klein wrote:>>>
>> Hi everyone,>>>> I was unable to locate any documentation for the IDE
>> controller on the>> Glenside's Club Coco page.  That being said, I don't
>> know if there was any>> "official" documentation released for it.  If
>> anyone has anything they can>> share, it would be greatly appreciated.>>>>
>> Thank you!>>>> -Ron>>>>> What are you looking for?  Someone (I will have to
>> check notes) shared the> schematics with me, and that tells one a lot about
>> the design.>>> Jim>>> --> RETRO Innovations, Contemporary Gear for Classic
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