[Coco] Programming in BASIC YouTube series

Fri Apr 29 14:38:22 EDT 2016

Done that!

http://www.tandycoco.com/coco-forum/software-projects/20

The original Sticks program with line numbers is in the original zip.

http://www.tandycoco.com/forum/download/file.php?id=21

The converted program is listed and US1.zip has the run able program.

http://www.tandycoco.com/forum/download/file.php?id=62

Something is wrong with my laptop so I cannot download US1.zip and I cannot find it in my computer.

Anyway I cannot add to the discussion and do not want to, just here and on facebook will I discuss anything.

SHF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur Flexser" <flexser at fiu.edu>
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Coco] Programming in BASIC YouTube series

> Stephen, I think the simplest way for you to get people to understand what
> Urbane is and does is to present two versions of the same short program:
> how it looks when typed in Urbane format, and how it looks after the
> Urbane preprocessor has translated the program to standard Basic.
> 
> Art
> 
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Stephen H. Fischer <
> SFischer1 at mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
>> The name "URBANE" was chosen to NOT imply a MODERN language. It is basely
>> only DECB programs that are preprocessed to be interpreted by unchanged
>> DECB. Bummer still, but more human friendly.
>>
>> NOTHING about a high level language applies.
>>
>> There is a project being looked at by Earl Casper to change DECB's
>> language, but that has no timetable.
>>
>>
>> I was astonished by how much more user friendly "URBANE" is just by
>> removing the line number requirement and the two character limitation for
>> variables.
>>
>>
>> I went on to add other things to allow better programming practices.
>>
>> Look first at
>> http://cococoding.com/sfischer/Urbane/Urbane%20Doc%20full%20set/ubn_out.htm
>>
>> That is pure DECB which is a run-able version of
>> http://cococoding.com/sfischer/Urbane/Urbane%20Doc%20full%20set/ubn_in.htm
>>
>> Look at the discussion on
>> http://www.tandycoco.com/coco-forum/basic-ly-speaking for answers to your
>> question and many more.
>>
>> SHF
>>
>> P.S. I hate what you did to my post!!!
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Salvador Garcia" <ssalvadorgarcia at netscape.net>
>> To: <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Programming in BASIC YouTube series
>>
>>
>> >
>> > So, if I understand correctly, URBANE is a high level language that when
>> "compiled" produces a BASIC program that is runnable in DECB? Salvador
>> >
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>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Stephen H. Fischer <SFischer1 at Mindspring.com>
>> > To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> > Sent: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 11:56 am
>> > Subject: Re: [Coco] Programming in BASIC YouTube series
>> >
>> > Covering URBANE is compatible with "I never left the minor leagues of
>> BASIC and learned any real or serious languages".It is DECB! You need to be
>> a good DECB programmer to step down to the better language "URBANE".In the
>> end it is a DECB program that you run.This is the language definition and
>> Source.
>> http://cococoding.com/sfischer/Urbane/Urbane%20Doc%20full%20set/ubn_in.htmHere
>> is the runable version ready to be interpreted be DECB.
>> http://cococoding.com/sfischer/Urbane/Urbane%20Doc%20full%20set/ubn_out.htmSo
>> you see, it just is a preprocessor for DECB programs that is much more
>> friendly to humans but results in the same DECB program to run.The
>> discussion on Urbane and the rest of the files including a DECB disk ready
>> to use is here.I am looking for where to place these files, CoCo3.com which
>> hosted the project is no longer is good shape to continue.
>> http://www.tandycoco.com/coco-forum/basic-ly-speaking is where the
>> discussion without me is.The start of the project that is stalled is here
>> is why I wrote URBANE.
>> http://www.tandycoco.com/coco-forum/software-projects/20Have fun.Earl
>> Casper has and is doing more work on his versions, what he has planned is
>> very exciting.SHF----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Strowbridge" <
>> ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <
>> coco at maltedmedia.com>Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 6:55 AMSubject: Re:
>> [Coco] Programming in BASIC YouTube series> Thanks for the feedback
>> Stephen, this is something I've been wanting to do> for a LONG time and
>> will hopefully fulfill a life-long dream, I never left> the minor leagues
>> of BASIC and learned any real or serious languages.  I> was quite fortunate
>> that once I moved to the PC, Microsoft Quick Basic> compiler allowed me to
>> pick up with zero learning curve and create some> pretty amazing PC
>> software that compiled into a stand-alone EXE file.  This> again kept my
>> creative tank full, but was also so "good enough" that I> didn't need to
>> learn any other languages, and I eventually stopped playing> with BASIC by
>> the end of the 90's, and regret never going to "the next> level" with
>> lower-level languages.> > Seeing how many projects in both hardware and
>> software that are going on,> I'm uber motivated to create a software
>> project to bring to next year's> fest.  The goal of this series was to
>> first re-learn for myself, second to> possibly teach someone who had no
>> previous experience, and lastly, to> create a game (or more).> > I have now
>> also set a challenge for myself to learn 6809 assembly after I> complete
>> this series (Which I will also document via YouTube), and,> hopefully, have
>> a "real" game that I can demo at CoCoFEST! next year,> hopefully even
>> getting it on a cartridge, but baby steps first :)> > > Steve Strowbridge,
>> aka> The Original Gamer Stevie Strow> http://ogsteviestrow.com>
>> ogsteviestrow at gmail.com> > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Stephen H.
>> Fischer <> SFischer1 at mindspring.com> wrote:> >> How about a series of
>> URBANE programming.>>>> Maybe some use may occur.>>>> SHF>>>> -----
>> Original Message ----->> From: "Steve Strowbridge" <
>> ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>>> To: "CoCo Mailing List" <coco at maltedmedia.com>>>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 12:38 PM>> Subject: [Coco] Programming in
>> BASIC YouTube series>>>>>> >I started a series on YouTube where I am going
>> back through the process of>> > re-leaning Color and Extended Color BASIC
>> for the CoCo 1&2 to ultimately>> > re-write a number of my BASIC games I
>> created as a kid that I no longer>> > have.>> >>> > Since I have to
>> somewhat re-educate myself to the language, I thought>> there>> > may be at
>> least 1 or 2 other people in the world who may find this>> > interesting,
>> so I decided to make it a chapter-by-chapter series, with>> the>> > season
>> finale being the creation of a new BASIC game.>> >>> > The link to this
>> series is:>> >
>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDfh7JjQaSYA1fP5KwRiOwefFIIF1Alid>>
>> >>> > If you already know BASIC, and lower languages like assembly and C,
>> you>> > aren't going to learn anything new here, but anybody who only
>> dabbled in>> > BASIC or perhaps never dug too deep in may find it to be of
>> interest.>> >>> > I have added two more chapters today so I'm currently up
>> to chapter 5, I>> > hope to crank these out at a quicker pace, so hopefully
>> a few chapters>> per>> > week will be the release schedule.>> >>> > Looking
>> forward to hearing any feedback, and as soon as I'm done with>> this,>> >
>> I'm going to jump into the deep end and start to learn 6809 assembly,>>
>> which>> > I have zero previous experience with and document that as well.>>
>> >>> >>> > Steve Strowbridge, aka-- Coco mailing listCoco
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