[Coco] Programming in BASIC YouTube series

Fri Apr 29 14:44:10 EDT 2016

It would be much more helpful if one could just see the two versions
together in a text file or message posted here, without having to mess with
zip files.

Art

On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Stephen H. Fischer <
SFischer1 at mindspring.com> wrote:

> Done that!
>
> http://www.tandycoco.com/coco-forum/software-projects/20
>
> The original Sticks program with line numbers is in the original zip.
>
> http://www.tandycoco.com/forum/download/file.php?id=21
>
> The converted program is listed and US1.zip has the run able program.
>
> http://www.tandycoco.com/forum/download/file.php?id=62
>
> Something is wrong with my laptop so I cannot download US1.zip and I
> cannot find it in my computer.
>
> Anyway I cannot add to the discussion and do not want to, just here and on
> facebook will I discuss anything.
>
> SHF
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Flexser" <flexser at fiu.edu>
> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Programming in BASIC YouTube series
>
>
> > Stephen, I think the simplest way for you to get people to understand
> what
> > Urbane is and does is to present two versions of the same short program:
> > how it looks when typed in Urbane format, and how it looks after the
> > Urbane preprocessor has translated the program to standard Basic.
> >
> > Art
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Stephen H. Fischer <
> > SFischer1 at mindspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The name "URBANE" was chosen to NOT imply a MODERN language. It is
> basely
> >> only DECB programs that are preprocessed to be interpreted by unchanged
> >> DECB. Bummer still, but more human friendly.
> >>
> >> NOTHING about a high level language applies.
> >>
> >> There is a project being looked at by Earl Casper to change DECB's
> >> language, but that has no timetable.
> >>
> >>
> >> I was astonished by how much more user friendly "URBANE" is just by
> >> removing the line number requirement and the two character limitation
> for
> >> variables.
> >>
> >>
> >> I went on to add other things to allow better programming practices.
> >>
> >> Look first at
> >>
> http://cococoding.com/sfischer/Urbane/Urbane%20Doc%20full%20set/ubn_out.htm
> >>
> >> That is pure DECB which is a run-able version of
> >>
> http://cococoding.com/sfischer/Urbane/Urbane%20Doc%20full%20set/ubn_in.htm
> >>
> >> Look at the discussion on
> >> http://www.tandycoco.com/coco-forum/basic-ly-speaking for answers to
> your
> >> question and many more.
> >>
> >> SHF
> >>
> >> P.S. I hate what you did to my post!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Salvador Garcia" <ssalvadorgarcia at netscape.net>
> >> To: <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 10:15 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Coco] Programming in BASIC YouTube series
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > So, if I understand correctly, URBANE is a high level language that
> when
> >> "compiled" produces a BASIC program that is runnable in DECB? Salvador
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
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> >> >
> >>
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> >> >
> >>
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> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Stephen H. Fischer <SFischer1 at Mindspring.com>
> >> > To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> >> > Sent: Fri, Apr 29, 2016 11:56 am
> >> > Subject: Re: [Coco] Programming in BASIC YouTube series
> >> >
> >> > Covering URBANE is compatible with "I never left the minor leagues of
> >> BASIC and learned any real or serious languages".It is DECB! You need
> to be
> >> a good DECB programmer to step down to the better language "URBANE".In
> the
> >> end it is a DECB program that you run.This is the language definition
> and
> >> Source.
> >>
> http://cococoding.com/sfischer/Urbane/Urbane%20Doc%20full%20set/ubn_in.htmHere
> >> is the runable version ready to be interpreted be DECB.
> >>
> http://cococoding.com/sfischer/Urbane/Urbane%20Doc%20full%20set/ubn_out.htmSo
> >> you see, it just is a preprocessor for DECB programs that is much more
> >> friendly to humans but results in the same DECB program to run.The
> >> discussion on Urbane and the rest of the files including a DECB disk
> ready
> >> to use is here.I am looking for where to place these files, CoCo3.com
> which
> >> hosted the project is no longer is good shape to continue.
> >> http://www.tandycoco.com/coco-forum/basic-ly-speaking is where the
> >> discussion without me is.The start of the project that is stalled is
> here
> >> is why I wrote URBANE.
> >> http://www.tandycoco.com/coco-forum/software-projects/20Have fun.Earl
> >> Casper has and is doing more work on his versions, what he has planned
> is
> >> very exciting.SHF----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Strowbridge"
> <
> >> ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <
> >> coco at maltedmedia.com>Sent: Friday, April 29, 2016 6:55 AMSubject: Re:
> >> [Coco] Programming in BASIC YouTube series> Thanks for the feedback
> >> Stephen, this is something I've been wanting to do> for a LONG time and
> >> will hopefully fulfill a life-long dream, I never left> the minor
> leagues
> >> of BASIC and learned any real or serious languages.  I> was quite
> fortunate
> >> that once I moved to the PC, Microsoft Quick Basic> compiler allowed me
> to
> >> pick up with zero learning curve and create some> pretty amazing PC
> >> software that compiled into a stand-alone EXE file.  This> again kept my
> >> creative tank full, but was also so "good enough" that I> didn't need to
> >> learn any other languages, and I eventually stopped playing> with BASIC
> by
> >> the end of the 90's, and regret never going to "the next> level" with
> >> lower-level languages.> > Seeing how many projects in both hardware and
> >> software that are going on,> I'm uber motivated to create a software
> >> project to bring to next year's> fest.  The goal of this series was to
> >> first re-learn for myself, second to> possibly teach someone who had no
> >> previous experience, and lastly, to> create a game (or more).> > I have
> now
> >> also set a challenge for myself to learn 6809 assembly after I> complete
> >> this series (Which I will also document via YouTube), and,> hopefully,
> have
> >> a "real" game that I can demo at CoCoFEST! next year,> hopefully even
> >> getting it on a cartridge, but baby steps first :)> > > Steve
> Strowbridge,
> >> aka> The Original Gamer Stevie Strow> http://ogsteviestrow.com>
> >> ogsteviestrow at gmail.com> > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Stephen
> H.
> >> Fischer <> SFischer1 at mindspring.com> wrote:> >> How about a series of
> >> URBANE programming.>>>> Maybe some use may occur.>>>> SHF>>>> -----
> >> Original Message ----->> From: "Steve Strowbridge" <
> >> ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>>> To: "CoCo Mailing List" <
> coco at maltedmedia.com>>>
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2016 12:38 PM>> Subject: [Coco] Programming in
> >> BASIC YouTube series>>>>>> >I started a series on YouTube where I am
> going
> >> back through the process of>> > re-leaning Color and Extended Color
> BASIC
> >> for the CoCo 1&2 to ultimately>> > re-write a number of my BASIC games I
> >> created as a kid that I no longer>> > have.>> >>> > Since I have to
> >> somewhat re-educate myself to the language, I thought>> there>> > may
> be at
> >> least 1 or 2 other people in the world who may find this>> >
> interesting,
> >> so I decided to make it a chapter-by-chapter series, with>> the>> >
> season
> >> finale being the creation of a new BASIC game.>> >>> > The link to this
> >> series is:>> >
> >>
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDfh7JjQaSYA1fP5KwRiOwefFIIF1Alid>>
> >> >>> > If you already know BASIC, and lower languages like assembly and
> C,
> >> you>> > aren't going to learn anything new here, but anybody who only
> >> dabbled in>> > BASIC or perhaps never dug too deep in may find it to be
> of
> >> interest.>> >>> > I have added two more chapters today so I'm currently
> up
> >> to chapter 5, I>> > hope to crank these out at a quicker pace, so
> hopefully
> >> a few chapters>> per>> > week will be the release schedule.>> >>> >
> Looking
> >> forward to hearing any feedback, and as soon as I'm done with>> this,>>
> >
> >> I'm going to jump into the deep end and start to learn 6809 assembly,>>
> >> which>> > I have zero previous experience with and document that as
> well.>>
> >> >>> >>> > Steve Strowbridge, aka-- Coco mailing listCoco
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> >> >
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