[Coco] noswiz doesn't work for me...

Brett Gordon beretta42 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 13 21:57:20 EST 2012


Christopher,

As far as the wizard's concerned, you'll find most of the information
I've written about it in the os9l2.txt included in the wizard's binary
release.  The documentation in CoCoBoot's source is more detailed
about CoCoBoot itself.

Basically, the wizard needs to know:
1. Where your bootable OS9 RBF filesystem is at.
2. Where you wish to clone CoCoBoot and the wizard to (I'm calling it
the "target")
3. Where you have booted the wizard from (I'm calling it the "source")

The target can be a Drivewire disk, a real floppy disk, or SuperIDE
Flash ROM.  Your target can be your source too.

The wizard will create a copy of itself with the entered OS9
information, but will change its behaviour to try to boot OS9 from
your choosen filesystem before running the wizard again.

When you reboot, there's only a few standard places the CoCoBoot
Kernel will look for the rest of the boot system at:

RAM - this is how the "nos.wav" cassette loading works.....
ROM - This is the Flash ROM
HDB on IDE (not DW) drive 6 - *** this only works under special
circumstances ****
DriveWire drive 0
Floppy Drive 0

If you use DW version 4.0.4, CoCoBoot will also tell the DW server to
look for a disk image called "CoCoBoot.isave" in DW's home path on the
server too.  (this way you can have a RBF filesystem in DW Drive 0,
AND expect CoCoBoot to find the wizard without having to switch
disks!!!! -  stock DW Nitros9's set /dd to be /x0 so you can see the
problem there!)

Willard is reporting some problems with CoCoBoot finding the Glenside
IDE interface.  CCB works with SuperIDE, no problems.  I was under the
impression that SuperIDE was identicle to  Glenside's interface.
Maybe a hardware guru can chime in here. But here's some potential
problems:

CoCoBoot only supports LBA Mode IDE drives.
CoCoBoot only supports Glenside controllers using the default "0xff50"
io addresses.

And please feel free to email if you have any more questions, and I'll
try to answer them!

Sincerely,

Brett Gordon

On 2/13/12, Christopher Hawks <chawks at dls.net> wrote:
> Brett Gordon said the following on 02/13/2012 06:03 PM:
>> Yeah,  I *highly* suggest making backup copies of things... including
>> the flash banks.  I just happened to use CoCoBoot to back up my entire
>> CF IDE and Flash Banks, but never had an issues with CCB screwing
>> anything up (yet).   I suggest you read the os9l2.txt file included in
>> the zip, AND the HELP file included in the binary releases of
>> CoCoBoot.
>
> 	I did read the os9l2.txt. THAT'S WHERE THE QUOTE IS FROM. And I didn't
> realize
> that I also had to download the binary release to get any kind of
> information
> about boot.dsk and the Nitros9 setup wizard.
>
>> If anyone wants to go "hard-core" with cocoboot the binary releases
>> contain "beginners.txt" a 3/4 written intro to Forth, and
>> "hacking.txt" an intensive look at the internals of CoCoBoot.
>>
>> Not to worry, CoCoBoot will only try to write to your Flash ROM, if
>> you ask it!  (avoid choosing a boot target of "ROM" when asked....)
>>
>> I also suggest that people use DriveWire to load up the latest live
>> images of Nitros9 and load them with CoCoboot for two reasons:
>>
>> a. You can't hurt a url image (and neither can CCB)
>> b. The url images already contain the "ccbkrn" module needed for the
>> new boot process.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Brett  Gordon
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Christopher Hawks<chawks at dls.net>  wrote:
>>> Brett Gordon said the following on 02/13/2012 09:45 AM:
>>>
>>>> Christopher,
>>>>
>>>> I see xroar only emulates CoCo1/2.  CoCoBoot works with CoCo 1/2, but
>>>> the new os9 boot system, and hence the wizard, is only for CoCo3 and
>>>> Nitros9 Level 3 booting.  I'll see if I can get the IDE drive not to
>>>> be confused, and I'll be working on a Level 1 booter soon.....
>>>>
>>>> Brett Gordon
>>>
>>>
>>> Brett:
>>>
>>>         I was curious and wanted to see what the wizard was up to before
>>> I
>>> ran it on my real system. I don't blindly run anything on any of my
>>> systems.
>>> (and "This wizard will, however, graciously reprogram your SuperIDE flash
>>> to
>>> install itself, if you own one!!!!" didn't tell me much.)
>>>
>>>
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>>
>
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