[Coco] hardware question - coco3 RAM subsystem

Stephen Adolph twospruces at gmail.com
Thu Mar 26 19:22:04 EDT 2009


As I stare at the schematic the functionality is becoming more clear.

One question-
The CPU cannot complete it's read in a single pulse of the E clock -
so that data has to be available on the correct edge in the next phase
(from the 6809 data sheet).

Does the GIME store the data for the CPU, obtained in the SAME E CLOCK
pulse as the CPU request, and forward it to the CPU during the next
phase?  ( I suspect the answer is yes..)

So, from the RAM's perspective, each read/write, regardless of source,
completes within a single pulse of either E or Q?

thanks.......

And yes, my RAM is 16 bits wide - 2 words independantly organized,
thank goodness.  Clearly needed.  (although, I think fast 8 bit ram
could also work with enough buffers).




On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 7:03 PM,  <jdaggett at gate.net> wrote:
> Stephan
>
> First off the COCO3 DRAM is configured in 256Kx16 mode using 41256
> drams.  DRAM access is fixed time and is accessed via a method known as
> IDMA(Interleaved DMA). That is when the E Clock is low the GIME
> accesses the memory for video. During the protion when the E Clock is
> high the CPU will write to memory. All reads of memory pass through the
> GIME chip.
>
> If your SRAM can be used in either 8 or 16 bit data buss mode then with
> fast enough external glue logic it maybe possible to be used in a COCO3.
>
> james
>
> On 26 Mar 2009 at 11:13, Stephen Adolph wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>> new to list, nice to meet you all.
>>
>> Ok, here is my question.  Looking at the 512k upgrades for Coco3, I
>> understand this is a DRAM based system.
>>
>> I happen to have a large amount of 2MB SRAMs, and a custom board with
>> a CPLD, that could be used to do a variety of things.
>>
>> (actually it is a ReMem for the M100 - see www.istop.com/~sadolph -
>> that's me.) (I want to reuse some existing memory hardware to upgrade
>> the COCO3 I have).
>>
>>
>> So, I am looking at the 41256 data sheet, and thinking about using
>> SRAM instead of DRAM.
>>
>> But, 41256 has some memory modes "page mode" that allows the row to
>> remain while the column is stobed..to up the read/write rate I
>> presume.
>>
>> Does COCO3 use these modes? OR, does it always operate in such a way
>> that CPU bus memory address always translates to one and only one
>> memory read/write?
>>
>> OR, could I simply capture ROW and COLUMN and create my own address
>> from that.
>>
>> ( I don't know enough about how the GIME chip manages the ram is what
>> this boils down to.)
>>
>> pls advise if possible.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Steve
>>
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