[Coco] Disc Images.
Richard Ivey
rrivey at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 15 11:01:32 EST 2006
Roy is sending me about 1000 discs, which Im going to attempt to image. It will be a time consuming process and I am still figuring out a to index them. Briza will also be assiting me.
When Im in office, I have a lot of spare time throughout the day and have cobbled together a machine with a 5 inch floppy on it for this purpose. Roy would like a home for these for the community to access them. Does anyone here have the ability or space to post the images as I get them done? I could forward them on a weekly basis or as I get them done. I do travel a great deal and until they have a USB 5 inch floppy, I will really be able to only do them at work
Since I know nothing of assembly programming (which I do want to learn), I figure this is a way that I can contribute to the group.
Thanks
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Re: I said *word* *processors*!!! (Roger Taylor)
2. Re: Re: I said *word* *processors*!!! (Ward Griffiths)
3. I said *word* *processors*!!! (Brian Palmer)
4. Re: Re: I said *word* *processors*!!! (L. Curtis Boyle)
5. Re: Re: I said *word* *processors*!!! (Gene Heskett)
6. Re: I said *word* *processors*!!! (Gene Heskett)
7. Re: Re: I said *word* *processors*!!! (Robert Gault)
8. OT (sort of) Aaron Banerjee (James Hrubik)
9. Bjork emulator (Jim Cox)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:49:47 -0600
From: Roger Taylor
Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: I said *word* *processors*!!!
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
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At 03:59 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:
>Mark Marlette writes:
>
> >
> > Leon,
> >
> > I take it you don't have the programs?
>
>Not yet. Are you taking orders again?
>
> > Buy VED if you don't.
>
>Not if it is just an editor and doesn't do any formating itself, and that's
>what your site seems to say. A word processor is supposed to edit text and
>get
>it ready to print. There should be no need for a seperate formatting program.
I think Vanderpoel might have designed the print formatter so that other
editors could use it. Hopefully VED uses the print filter seamlessly.
--
Roger Taylor
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:05:07 -0500
From: Ward Griffiths
Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: I said *word* *processors*!!!
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
Message-ID: <200602142205.07958.wdg3rd at comcast.net>
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On 02/14/2006 09:49 pm, Roger Taylor wrote:
> At 03:59 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:
> >Mark Marlette writes:
> > > Leon,
> > >
> > > I take it you don't have the programs?
> >
> >Not yet. Are you taking orders again?
> >
> > > Buy VED if you don't.
> >
> >Not if it is just an editor and doesn't do any formating itself, and
> > that's what your site seems to say. A word processor is supposed to edit
> > text and get
> >it ready to print. There should be no need for a seperate formatting
> > program.
>
> I think Vanderpoel might have designed the print formatter so that other
> editors could use it. Hopefully VED uses the print filter seamlessly.
Personally, I prefer that my editor and formatter be separate programs. When
I am creating text, I don't want to be deluged with all of the special
features of a "modern" over-integrated "word processor", and I _especially_
don't want any WYSIWYG nonsense. 85% of my text editing time is spent in
some version or clone of vi and 10% is done on a Model 100. When I've got my
text created, _then_ it's time to pretty it up. At work, that unfortunately
means sucking my text into Word. At home, I have a lot more choices. If
it's nothing fancy, TRS-80 Model II Scripsit 2.0 is a good one. Or TeX. Or
best of all, Prosoft's Allwrite! on my Model 4. That last is a program I'd
love to see an equivalent to on OS-9, but I'm not the programmer to do it.
Is there anything close to nroff/troff available for OS-9? I haven't checked
the archives lately.
Yes, I often create text on a completely different platform than the one I'll
use to print it. (I hate PC keyboards -- my AT&T 7300 has the best keyboard
in the house). Null modems and I are old and close friends.
--
Ward Griffiths wdg3rd at comcast.net
I think boys might benefit from owning a Barbie doll; every young man
should understand what an expensive proposition it is to cohabitate with
a narcissistic woman built like a stripper. -- Tony Woodlief
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:42:00 +1030 (Cen. Australia Daylight Time)
From: "Brian Palmer"
Subject: [Coco] I said *word* *processors*!!!
To:
Message-ID: <43F29C00.000007.15965 at TIGERS>
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How about Window Writer 1.2 for the coco 3 under OS9 Level 2,
It was all menu driven, had word formatting, could use Dynastar word
spelling checker, Could be used with a Ramdisk(If you had 512k), was mouse
or keyboard accessed features, could be run from a hard drive, Could access
Multiple files on the go.
drop down help menu's, Plus countless other features. But too many to list.
This program was done by Owl-ware.
viva la coco
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:22:06 -0600
From: "L. Curtis Boyle"
Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: I said *word* *processors*!!!
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:05:07 -0600, Ward Griffiths
wrote:
> On 02/14/2006 09:49 pm, Roger Taylor wrote:
>> At 03:59 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:
>> >Mark Marlette writes:
>> > > Leon,
>> > >
>> > > I take it you don't have the programs?
>> >
>> >Not yet. Are you taking orders again?
>> >
>> > > Buy VED if you don't.
>> >
>> >Not if it is just an editor and doesn't do any formating itself, and
>> > that's what your site seems to say. A word processor is supposed to
>> edit
>> > text and get
>> >it ready to print. There should be no need for a seperate formatting
>> > program.
>>
>> I think Vanderpoel might have designed the print formatter so that other
>> editors could use it. Hopefully VED uses the print filter seamlessly.
>
> Personally, I prefer that my editor and formatter be separate programs.
> When
> I am creating text, I don't want to be deluged with all of the special
> features of a "modern" over-integrated "word processor", and I
> _especially_
> don't want any WYSIWYG nonsense. 85% of my text editing time is spent in
> some version or clone of vi and 10% is done on a Model 100. When I've
> got my
> text created, _then_ it's time to pretty it up. At work, that
> unfortunately
> means sucking my text into Word. At home, I have a lot more choices. If
> it's nothing fancy, TRS-80 Model II Scripsit 2.0 is a good one. Or
> TeX. Or
> best of all, Prosoft's Allwrite! on my Model 4. That last is a program
> I'd
> love to see an equivalent to on OS-9, but I'm not the programmer to do
> it.
> Is there anything close to nroff/troff available for OS-9? I haven't
> checked
> the archives lately.
>
> Yes, I often create text on a completely different platform than the one
> I'll
> use to print it. (I hate PC keyboards -- my AT&T 7300 has the best
> keyboard
> in the house). Null modems and I are old and close friends.
The best "word" processor I used was Owl-Ware's Window Writer. It did have
limited WYSIWYG (centering, different colored fonts for bold, italics,
etc.). It was actually written in BASIC09, and at one point I had started
using the BASIC decompiler to make source code so that I could change it
to run on a 4 color 640x192 graphics screen instead (for Nitros9, natch),
but I didn't get all that far with it.
It shouldn't be that hard to write a semi decent one, and RS-DOS had
Max-10 which was kind of a desktop publisher/word processor combo, from
what I saw.
--
-Curtis-
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:26:40 -0500
From: Gene Heskett
Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: I said *word* *processors*!!!
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
Message-ID: <200602142226.40450.gene.heskett at verizon.net>
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On Tuesday 14 February 2006 22:05, Ward Griffiths wrote:
>On 02/14/2006 09:49 pm, Roger Taylor wrote:
>> At 03:59 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:
>> >Mark Marlette writes:
>> > > Leon,
>> > >
>> > > I take it you don't have the programs?
>> >
>> >Not yet. Are you taking orders again?
>> >
>> > > Buy VED if you don't.
>> >
>> >Not if it is just an editor and doesn't do any formating itself,
>> > and that's what your site seems to say. A word processor is
>> > supposed to edit text and get
>> >it ready to print. There should be no need for a seperate
>> > formatting program.
>>
>> I think Vanderpoel might have designed the print formatter so that
>> other editors could use it. Hopefully VED uses the print filter
>> seamlessly.
>
>Personally, I prefer that my editor and formatter be separate
> programs. When I am creating text, I don't want to be deluged with
> all of the special features of a "modern" over-integrated "word
> processor", and I _especially_ don't want any WYSIWYG nonsense. 85%
> of my text editing time is spent in some version or clone of vi and
> 10% is done on a Model 100. When I've got my text created, _then_
> it's time to pretty it up. At work, that unfortunately means sucking
> my text into Word. At home, I have a lot more choices. If it's
> nothing fancy, TRS-80 Model II Scripsit 2.0 is a good one. Or TeX.
> Or best of all, Prosoft's Allwrite! on my Model 4. That last is a
> program I'd love to see an equivalent to on OS-9, but I'm not the
> programmer to do it. Is there anything close to nroff/troff available
> for OS-9? I haven't checked the archives lately.
It seems to me that I can recall fooling with a troff once, couldn't
make it work very well at the time, probably because I didn't know what
I was doing, and it (on a level one box) crashed a lot. Then I did the
last few releases of pf, and didn't touch a troff till I was running an
amiga. And it wasn't that good so I compiled pf to run on the amiga.
I have an intense dislike for a text formatter that breaks words apart
arbitrarily because its reached the 80th character of the current line.
AFAIK, even linux uses it to display manpages yet, so its come a long
way in the last 40 some years.
>Yes, I often create text on a completely different platform than the
> one I'll use to print it. (I hate PC keyboards -- my AT&T 7300 has
> the best keyboard in the house). Null modems and I are old and close
> friends.
I have an old, solid metal cased, clickity IBM keyboard that I revert to
occasionally till the missus fusses about the clickity keeping her
awake. Great keyboard, I think its actually a Northgate in IBM
grey/tan dress. Unbreakable, keytops shot all the way thru. This $45
M$ keyboard I'm using ATM has half the letters worn off the keys
because they aren't shot all the way thru & its only a year old. :(
>--
>Ward Griffiths wdg3rd at comcast.net
>
>I think boys might benefit from owning a Barbie doll; every young man
>should understand what an expensive proposition it is to cohabitate
> with a narcissistic woman built like a stripper. -- Tony Woodlief
--
Cheers, Gene
People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word
'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's
stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-)
Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
message by Gene Heskett are:
Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:28:02 -0500
From: Gene Heskett
Subject: Re: [Coco] I said *word* *processors*!!!
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
Message-ID: <200602142228.02886.gene.heskett at verizon.net>
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On Tuesday 14 February 2006 22:12, Brian Palmer wrote:
>How about Window Writer 1.2 for the coco 3 under OS9 Level 2,
>It was all menu driven, had word formatting, could use Dynastar word
>spelling checker, Could be used with a Ramdisk(If you had 512k), was
> mouse or keyboard accessed features, could be run from a hard drive,
> Could access Multiple files on the go.
>drop down help menu's, Plus countless other features. But too many to
> list.
>
>This program was done by Owl-ware.
>
>viva la coco
Does anybody know where a legal copy could be obtained today? It sounds
interesting.
--
Cheers, Gene
People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word
'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's
stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-)
Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
message by Gene Heskett are:
Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:15:44 -0500
From: Robert Gault
Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: I said *word* *processors*!!!
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
Message-ID: <43F2AAF0.10104 at worldnet.att.net>
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Indeed, there were several good WYSIWYG programs for Disk Basic; MAX-10,
Word Power 3.2 & 3.3, Simply Better, and Telewriter-128. All of these were
quite respectable programs, at least as good as any for OS-9.
L. Curtis Boyle wrote:
>
> It shouldn't be that hard to write a semi decent one, and RS-DOS
> had Max-10 which was kind of a desktop publisher/word processor combo,
> from what I saw.
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:51:41 -0500
From: James Hrubik
Subject: [Coco] OT (sort of) Aaron Banerjee
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:52:53 -0800
From: "Jim Cox"
Subject: [Coco] Bjork emulator
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
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Has anyone used the Bjork emulator from:
http://members.lycos.co.uk/poco6809/bjork/index.html
If so, what are your thoughts.
-Jim
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