[Coco] Disc Images.

Jim Cox jimcox at miba51.com
Mon Feb 20 23:47:21 EST 2006


How about a USB 3.5" drive that can write 720K disks?  See 
my posting about the I/OMagic USB Datacenter

-Jim


On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:01:32 -0800 (PST)
  Richard Ivey <rrivey at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Roy is sending me about 1000 discs, which Im going to 
>attempt to  image.  It will be a time consuming process 
>and I am still  figuring out a to index them.  Briza will 
>also be assiting  me.  
>  When Im in office, I have a lot of spare time 
>throughout the day and  have cobbled together a machine 
>with a 5 inch floppy on it for this  purpose.  Roy would 
>like a home for these for the community to  access them. 
> Does anyone here have the ability or space to post  the 
>images as I get them done?  I could forward them on a 
>weekly  basis  or as I get them done.  I do travel a 
>great deal and  until they have a USB 5 inch floppy, I 
>will really be able to only do  them at work
>  
>  Since I know nothing of assembly programming (which I 
>do want to  learn), I figure this is a way that I can 
>contribute to the group.
>  
>  Thanks
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>Griffiths)
>   3. I said *word* *processors*!!! (Brian Palmer)
>   4. Re: Re: I said *word* *processors*!!! (L. Curtis 
>Boyle)
>   5. Re: Re: I said *word* *processors*!!! (Gene 
>Heskett)
>   6. Re: I said *word* *processors*!!! (Gene Heskett)
>   7. Re: Re: I said *word* *processors*!!! (Robert 
>Gault)
>   8. OT (sort of) Aaron Banerjee (James Hrubik)
>   9. Bjork emulator (Jim Cox)
> 
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 20:49:47 -0600
>From: Roger Taylor 
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: I said *word* *processors*!!!
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts 
> Message-ID: 
><6.2.1.2.0.20060214204343.01de48e0 at mail.coco3.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; 
>format=flowed
> 
> At 03:59 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:
>>Mark Marlette  writes:
>>
>> >
>> > Leon,
>> >
>> > I take it you don't have the programs?
>>
>>Not yet. Are you taking orders again?
>>
>> > Buy VED if you don't.
>>
>>Not if it is just an editor and doesn't do any formating 
>>itself, and that's
>>what your site seems to say. A word processor is supposed 
>>to edit text and 
>>get
>>it ready to print. There should be no need for a seperate 
>>formatting program.
> 
> 
> I think Vanderpoel might have designed the print 
>formatter so that other 
> editors could use it.  Hopefully VED uses the print 
>filter seamlessly.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Roger Taylor
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:05:07 -0500
>From: Ward Griffiths 
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: I said *word* *processors*!!!
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts 
> Message-ID: <200602142205.07958.wdg3rd at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> On 02/14/2006 09:49 pm, Roger Taylor wrote:
>> At 03:59 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:
>> >Mark Marlette  writes:
>> > > Leon,
>> > >
>> > > I take it you don't have the programs?
>> >
>> >Not yet. Are you taking orders again?
>> >
>> > > Buy VED if you don't.
>> >
>> >Not if it is just an editor and doesn't do any 
>>formating itself, and
>> > that's what your site seems to say. A word processor 
>>is supposed to edit
>> > text and get
>> >it ready to print. There should be no need for a 
>>seperate formatting
>> > program.
>>
>> I think Vanderpoel might have designed the print 
>>formatter so that other
>> editors could use it.  Hopefully VED uses the print 
>>filter seamlessly.
> 
> Personally, I prefer that my editor and formatter be 
>separate programs.  When 
> I am creating text, I don't want to be deluged with all 
>of the special 
> features of a "modern" over-integrated "word processor", 
>and I _especially_ 
> don't want any WYSIWYG nonsense.  85% of my text editing 
>time is spent in 
> some version or clone of vi and 10% is done on a Model 
>100.  When I've got my 
> text created, _then_ it's time to pretty it up.  At 
>work, that unfortunately 
> means sucking my text into Word.  At home, I have a lot 
>more choices.  If 
> it's nothing fancy, TRS-80 Model II Scripsit 2.0 is a 
>good one.  Or TeX.  Or 
> best of all, Prosoft's Allwrite! on my Model 4.  That 
>last is a program I'd 
> love to see an equivalent to on OS-9, but I'm not the 
>programmer to do it.  
> Is there anything close to nroff/troff available for 
>OS-9?  I haven't checked 
> the archives lately.
> 
> Yes, I often create text on a completely different 
>platform than the one I'll 
> use to print it.  (I hate PC keyboards -- my AT&T 7300 
>has the best keyboard 
> in the house).  Null modems and I are old and close 
>friends.
> -- 
> Ward Griffiths    wdg3rd at comcast.net
> 
> I think boys might benefit from owning a Barbie doll; 
>every young man
> should understand what an expensive proposition it is to 
>cohabitate with
> a narcissistic woman built like a stripper.  --  Tony 
>Woodlief
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 13:42:00 +1030 (Cen. Australia 
>Daylight Time)
>From: "Brian Palmer" 
> Subject: [Coco] I said *word* *processors*!!!
> To: 
> Message-ID: <43F29C00.000007.15965 at TIGERS>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> How about Window Writer 1.2 for the coco 3 under OS9 
>Level 2,
> It was all menu driven, had word formatting, could use 
>Dynastar word
> spelling checker, Could be used with a Ramdisk(If you 
>had 512k), was mouse
> or keyboard accessed features, could be run from a hard 
>drive, Could access
> Multiple files on the go.
> drop down help menu's, Plus countless other features. 
>But too many to list.
> 
> This program was done by Owl-ware.
> 
> viva la coco
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:22:06 -0600
>From: "L. Curtis Boyle" 
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: I said *word* *processors*!!!
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts 
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes;
> charset=iso-8859-15
> 
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:05:07 -0600, Ward Griffiths   
> wrote:
> 
>> On 02/14/2006 09:49 pm, Roger Taylor wrote:
>>> At 03:59 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:
>>> >Mark Marlette  writes:
>>> > > Leon,
>>> > >
>>> > > I take it you don't have the programs?
>>> >
>>> >Not yet. Are you taking orders again?
>>> >
>>> > > Buy VED if you don't.
>>> >
>>> >Not if it is just an editor and doesn't do any 
>>>formating itself, and
>>> > that's what your site seems to say. A word processor 
>>>is supposed to  
>>> edit
>>> > text and get
>>> >it ready to print. There should be no need for a 
>>>seperate formatting
>>> > program.
>>>
>>> I think Vanderpoel might have designed the print 
>>>formatter so that other
>>> editors could use it.  Hopefully VED uses the print 
>>>filter seamlessly.
>>
>> Personally, I prefer that my editor and formatter be 
>>separate programs.   
>> When
>> I am creating text, I don't want to be deluged with all 
>>of the special
>> features of a "modern" over-integrated "word processor", 
>>and I  
>> _especially_
>> don't want any WYSIWYG nonsense.  85% of my text editing 
>>time is spent in
>> some version or clone of vi and 10% is done on a Model 
>>100.  When I've  
>> got my
>> text created, _then_ it's time to pretty it up.  At 
>>work, that  
>> unfortunately
>> means sucking my text into Word.  At home, I have a lot 
>>more choices.  If
>> it's nothing fancy, TRS-80 Model II Scripsit 2.0 is a 
>>good one.  Or  
>> TeX.  Or
>> best of all, Prosoft's Allwrite! on my Model 4.  That 
>>last is a program  
>> I'd
>> love to see an equivalent to on OS-9, but I'm not the 
>>programmer to do  
>> it.
>> Is there anything close to nroff/troff available for 
>>OS-9?  I haven't  
>> checked
>> the archives lately.
>>
>> Yes, I often create text on a completely different 
>>platform than the one  
>> I'll
>> use to print it.  (I hate PC keyboards -- my AT&T 7300 
>>has the best  
>> keyboard
>> in the house).  Null modems and I are old and close 
>>friends.
> 
> The best "word" processor I used was Owl-Ware's Window 
>Writer. It did have  
> limited WYSIWYG (centering, different colored fonts for 
>bold, italics,  
> etc.). It was actually written in BASIC09, and at one 
>point I had started  
> using the BASIC decompiler to make source code so that I 
>could change it  
> to run on a 4 color 640x192 graphics screen instead (for 
>Nitros9, natch),  
> but I didn't get all that far with it.
>     It shouldn't be that hard to write a semi decent 
>one, and RS-DOS had  
> Max-10 which was kind of a desktop publisher/word 
>processor combo, from  
> what I saw.
> 
> 
> -- 
> -Curtis-
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:26:40 -0500
>From: Gene Heskett 
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: I said *word* *processors*!!!
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts 
> Message-ID: 
><200602142226.40450.gene.heskett at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Tuesday 14 February 2006 22:05, Ward Griffiths wrote:
>>On 02/14/2006 09:49 pm, Roger Taylor wrote:
>>> At 03:59 PM 2/14/2006, you wrote:
>>> >Mark Marlette  writes:
>>> > > Leon,
>>> > >
>>> > > I take it you don't have the programs?
>>> >
>>> >Not yet. Are you taking orders again?
>>> >
>>> > > Buy VED if you don't.
>>> >
>>> >Not if it is just an editor and doesn't do any 
>>>formating itself,
>>> > and that's what your site seems to say. A word 
>>>processor is
>>> > supposed to edit text and get
>>> >it ready to print. There should be no need for a 
>>>seperate
>>> > formatting program.
>>>
>>> I think Vanderpoel might have designed the print 
>>>formatter so that
>>> other editors could use it.  Hopefully VED uses the 
>>>print filter
>>> seamlessly.
>>
>>Personally, I prefer that my editor and formatter be 
>>separate
>> programs.  When I am creating text, I don't want to be 
>>deluged with
>> all of the special features of a "modern" 
>>over-integrated "word
>> processor", and I _especially_ don't want any WYSIWYG 
>>nonsense.  85%
>> of my text editing time is spent in some version or 
>>clone of vi and
>> 10% is done on a Model 100.  When I've got my text 
>>created, _then_
>> it's time to pretty it up.  At work, that unfortunately 
>>means sucking
>> my text into Word.  At home, I have a lot more choices. 
>> If it's
>> nothing fancy, TRS-80 Model II Scripsit 2.0 is a good 
>>one.  Or TeX. 
>> Or best of all, Prosoft's Allwrite! on my Model 4.  That 
>>last is a
>> program I'd love to see an equivalent to on OS-9, but 
>>I'm not the
>> programmer to do it. Is there anything close to 
>>nroff/troff available
>> for OS-9?  I haven't checked the archives lately.
> 
> It seems to me that I can recall fooling with a troff 
>once, couldn't 
> make it work very well at the time, probably because I 
>didn't know what 
> I was doing, and it (on a level one box) crashed a lot. 
> Then I did the 
> last few releases of pf, and didn't touch a troff till I 
>was running an 
> amiga.  And it wasn't that good so I compiled pf to run 
>on the amiga.
> I have an intense dislike for a text formatter that 
>breaks words apart 
> arbitrarily because its reached the 80th character of 
>the current line.
> AFAIK, even linux uses it to display manpages yet, so 
>its come a long 
> way in the last 40 some years.
> 
>>Yes, I often create text on a completely different 
>>platform than the
>> one I'll use to print it.  (I hate PC keyboards -- my 
>>AT&T 7300 has
>> the best keyboard in the house).  Null modems and I are 
>>old and close
>> friends.
> 
> I have an old, solid metal cased, clickity IBM keyboard 
>that I revert to 
> occasionally till the missus fusses about the clickity 
>keeping her 
> awake.  Great keyboard, I think its actually a Northgate 
>in IBM 
> grey/tan dress.  Unbreakable, keytops shot all the way 
>thru.  This $45 
> M$ keyboard I'm using ATM has half the letters worn off 
>the keys 
> because they aren't shot all the way thru & its only a 
>year old. :(
> 
>>--
>>Ward Griffiths    wdg3rd at comcast.net
>>
>>I think boys might benefit from owning a Barbie doll; 
>>every young man
>>should understand what an expensive proposition it is to 
>>cohabitate
>> with a narcissistic woman built like a stripper.  -- 
>> Tony Woodlief
> 
> -- 
> Cheers, Gene
> People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me 
>should add the word
> 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which 
>bypasses vz's
> stupid bounce rules.  I do use spamassassin too. :-)
> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to 
>the above
> message by Gene Heskett are:
> Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights 
>reserved.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 22:28:02 -0500
>From: Gene Heskett 
> Subject: Re: [Coco] I said *word* *processors*!!!
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts 
> Message-ID: 
><200602142228.02886.gene.heskett at verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> On Tuesday 14 February 2006 22:12, Brian Palmer wrote:
>>How about Window Writer 1.2 for the coco 3 under OS9 
>>Level 2,
>>It was all menu driven, had word formatting, could use 
>>Dynastar word
>>spelling checker, Could be used with a Ramdisk(If you had 
>>512k), was
>> mouse or keyboard accessed features, could be run from a 
>>hard drive,
>> Could access Multiple files on the go.
>>drop down help menu's, Plus countless other features. But 
>>too many to
>> list.
>>
>>This program was done by Owl-ware.
>>
>>viva la coco
> 
> Does anybody know where a legal copy could be obtained 
>today?  It sounds 
> interesting.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers, Gene
> People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me 
>should add the word
> 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which 
>bypasses vz's
> stupid bounce rules.  I do use spamassassin too. :-)
> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to 
>the above
> message by Gene Heskett are:
> Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights 
>reserved.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:15:44 -0500
>From: Robert Gault 
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: I said *word* *processors*!!!
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts 
> Message-ID: <43F2AAF0.10104 at worldnet.att.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; 
>format=flowed
> 
> Indeed, there were several good WYSIWYG programs for 
>Disk Basic; MAX-10, 
> Word Power 3.2 & 3.3, Simply Better, and Telewriter-128. 
>All of these were 
> quite respectable programs, at least as good as any for 
>OS-9.
> 
> L. Curtis Boyle wrote:
>>
>>     It shouldn't be that hard to write a semi decent 
>>one, and RS-DOS 
>> had  Max-10 which was kind of a desktop publisher/word 
>>processor combo, 
>> from  what I saw.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 23:51:41 -0500
>From: James Hrubik 
> Subject: [Coco] OT (sort of) Aaron Banerjee
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:52:53 -0800
>From: "Jim Cox" 
> Subject: [Coco] Bjork emulator
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts 
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> Has anyone used the Bjork emulator from:
> 
> http://members.lycos.co.uk/poco6809/bjork/index.html
> 
> If so, what are your thoughts.
> 
> -Jim
> 
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