[Coco] Rainbow on Disc

Boisy G. Pitre boisy at boisypitre.com
Wed Jun 8 15:06:29 EDT 2005

These are good questions, Michael.

On Jun 8, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Michael Wayne Harwood wrote:

> I have a scanner with a document feeder, but I have found the  
> quality to
> be much less when using it.  You can count me in as one of the scanner
> grunts.    I am also happy to donate magazines.
> I have a few other questions for Lonnie, and I thought perhaps you  
> guys
> might have a few of your own.  I would be happy to include any of your
> questions in my next missive to him so that he is not deluded with  
> hordes
> of email.  I'm sure my list of questions are not exhaustive...  ;)
> 1.  If a particular format is decided upon initially (PDF without  
> OCR'd
> text) and upgrade the quality of the documents at a later time (PDF  
> with
> OCR'd text and a searchable index) will there be any issues with  
> providing
> free upgrades (free meaning no extra license fees paid to Lonnie) to
> persons who have already purchased the orginal product?

I would suspect anyone "upgrading" would have to return the original  
CD or DVD.

> 2. If someone wants to purchase two copies do they have to pay the  
> license
> fees twice?  I assume the answer to this is yes.

I would expect so.

> 3. I assume that the persons doing the work are not exempt from the
> licensing costs.  Just because I am scanning and doing work on the  
> product
> does not entitle me to my own free collection.

I don't expect you to be exempt, but you should charge something  
above what Lon-Lon is taking in.  It's your effort and time being  
expended here, and I don't mind paying more for the entire Rainbow  
Magazine on DVD.  I mean, that is just way cool!

> 4.  If a person owns a physical copy of Rainbow does this entitle  
> them to
> make a "backup" of the magazine under the auspices of "fair use"?  I
> assume not.

Touchy.  My position is that no matter how long I have subscribed to  
Rainbow in the past, or how many hard copies I have, I will still  
purchase the entire digitized collection.

> 5. Does the $.25 per issue also include the "Rainbow on Disk" for that
> issue, or is that an additional cost?

Good question.  Try to get Lon-Lon to keep it in with the cost of the  

Now getting all of Rainbow on Disk along with the mags, that would be  

Speaking of that, have you seen Zinio? (http://www.zinio.com/).  It's  
a magazine reader application, and might be adaptable for something  
like this.

At any rate, my vote is for PDF for the file format, unless someone  
can come up with a smaller/better format that has good cross-platform  

> Regards,
> Michael Harwood
> ---------------------------- Original Message  
> ----------------------------
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Rainbow on Disc
> From:    "John R. Hogerhuis" <jhoger at pobox.com>
> Date:    Wed, June 8, 2005 11:24 am
> To:      "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts"  
> <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>          michael at musicheadproductions.org
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> ----
> On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 09:12 -0600, Michael Wayne Harwood wrote:
>> Here is the latest communication thread regarding what I would  
>> like to
> unofficially dub "Rainbow on Disc".  I think that Lonnie's terms are
> extremely fair.  At $.25 per issue the entire Rainbow archive of 144
> issues could be had for $36 plus shipping and media costs.  Are  
> there any
> thoughts regarding the costs or what Lonnie has proposed?
> I think someone is going to have to take responsibility for the
> administration portion of this. Quarterly reports to Lonnie,  
> collection of
> money, the check, etc. It's an expense and would have to be covered in
> some way by the final price for the CD. Glenside was suggested.  
> Perhaps
> Cloud-9 is another possibility? Accounting sucks but someone has to  
> do it.
> As Lonnie suggests, we should just produce a complete collection  
> CD, not
> individual issues.
> Other than that it seems the list of conditions is completely  
> workable.
>> I think we should start a discussion regarding the actual work and  
>> the
> practical details involved.  Boisy has some good questions regarding
> standards and consistency.
> I'd take a fairly loose approach. I think everyone that wants to  
> donate
> copies goes into a big list with all the issues they own. Hopefully  
> there
> is a lot of overlap. We need a list of people with scanners w/  
> document
> feeders that are willing to do the work. Hopefully each of these  
> people
> have access to a printshop that can safely remove the binding from the
> copies that they will scan.
> Then each person donating a copy or copies can mail them directly  
> to the
> individuals doing the scanning. They cut, scan and upload to a central
> website where they are reviewed and cleaned up. Then we can use a
> command line tool to make magazines out of them, OCR or whatever.
> BTW Michael, great job getting the ball rolling.
> -- John.
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