[Coco] CB, ECB, DECB, & SECB

Arthur Flexser flexser at fiu.edu
Thu Jul 13 00:53:23 EDT 2017 

Thanks, that's interesting!

There's a pdf of that manual here, apparently the same edition you're
referring to.

http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Manuals/Hardware/Color%20Computer%203%20Exended%20Basic%20%28Tandy%29.pdf

Tried to see if there were any other uses of the term in it, but the
document does not seem to be searchable.

Art


On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:57 PM, Glen Hewlett <glen.hewlett at sympatico.ca>
wrote:

> Hey All,
>
> I know this is an old thread now but I thought you guys might like to know
> I was looking at the Memory Map on page 311 of my Color Computer 3 Extended
> Basic Manual that came with my CoCo 3 and near the bottom it says:
>
> 516096-523775    Super Extended BASIC      7E000-7FDFF
>
> I don’t see a version number on my manual but it has some copyright
> notices of 1986.
>
> So there is one official document from Radio Shack that did call it Super
> Extended BASIC.
>
> Cheers,
> Glen
>
> > On Jun 11, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > I prefer Super Extended Basic myself, simply because the name kind of
> stuck
> > after the Unravelled volume came out.
> >
> > Art
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks, David. I just thought I remembered such a name and decided to
> throw
> >> it out there. Yes, I believe it is a matter of what the users as a whole
> >> think. As for me, any of the 3 will do, but I sort like the Super
> version.
> >> Makess it sound like it's souped up.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:39 AM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wayne,
> >>>
> >>> That is for sure a possible name.  Though the enhanced that was in
> front
> >> of
> >>> the Extended Color Basic was lower case so i don't think they intended
> >> the
> >>> enhanced to be part of the name.  Though after all these years I guess
> it
> >>> comes to what the majority want to call it.
> >>>
> >>> Kinda like ain't didn't use to be in the dictionary, but now it is.
> Just
> >>> depends on how much the masses use it or want to use something on a
> >>> specific way. (*shrug*)
> >>>
> >>> So overall I guess from my point of view is what does the masses want
> it
> >>> called?  Do we want it called Super Extended Color Basic? Or maybe
> >> Wayne's
> >>> idea of Enhanced Extended Color Basic?  Or Extended Color Basic V2?
> lol.
> >>> We have so many options. :D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> +-----------------------------------------------------------
> >> ------------+
> >>> | David Ladd a.k.a. PacoOtaktay a.k.a. Drencor
>   |
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> >> |
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> >> |
> >>> |
>  |
> >>> | Do you have your CoCo 3 yet?
>   |
> >>> +-----------------------------------------------------------
> >> ------------+
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> EECB = Enhanced Extended Color Basic?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:31 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Art,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I looked at the PDF of the original manual that came with the CoCo 3.
> >>> It
> >>>>> refers to the updated basic in the CoCo 3 as "Extended Color Basic
> >>>> Version
> >>>>> 2".  I did not see anywhere where I read a reference to Super
> >> Extended
> >>>>> Color Basic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My opinion it is probably something the group adopted to make it
> >> easier
> >>>> to
> >>>>> distinguesh between the Extended Basic 1.x on the CoCo 1 & 2's verses
> >>> the
> >>>>> expanded command set in the Extended Basic 2.x on the CoCo 3.
> >>> Otherwise
> >>>> if
> >>>>> you were to look at it probably should be named what???? ECBv2?
> >>>> (*shrug*)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> ------------+
> >>>>> | David Ladd a.k.a. PacoOtaktay a.k.a. Drencor
> >>>  |
> >>>>> | YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/PacoOtaktay
> >>>> |
> >>>>> | YouTube Gaming Live: https://gaming.youtube.com/
> >>> user/PacoOtaktay/live
> >>>> |
> >>>>> | Websites: http://dwladd.com     &     http://www.theterrorzone.com
> >>>> |
> >>>>> | G+:  https://plus.google.com/113262444659438038657
> >>>> |
> >>>>> | G+:  https://plus.google.com/+DavidLaddPacoOtaktay
> >>>> |
> >>>>> |
> >>> |
> >>>>> | Do you have your CoCo 3 yet?
> >>>  |
> >>>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> ------------+
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> That doesn't match my recollection, but perhaps someone here has
> >> that
> >>>>>> booklet and can say whether or not it used the term Super Extended
> >>>> Color
> >>>>>> Basic.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Art
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Camillus Blockx <
> >>>>> camillus.b.58 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I do think it was on the booklet that came with the Coco 3
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cb
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2017 5:20 PM, "Arthur Flexser" <flexser at fiu.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ...which brings up the question of whether the term Super
> >>> Extended
> >>>>>> Color
> >>>>>>>> Basic is in fact the official Tandy designation or not.  I
> >> first
> >>>> saw
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> term in the title of Spectral Associates' Super Extended Basic
> >>>>>>> Unravelled.
> >>>>>>>> I have not seen it in anything from Tandy, and the term does
> >> not
> >>>>> appear
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> the CoCo 3 startup screen.  Then again, Spectral Associates
> >> have
> >>>>> worked
> >>>>>>>> with Tandy on various things, and I heard from somewhere long
> >> ago
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>> were given one of the CoCo 3 prototypes for development
> >> purposes,
> >>>> so
> >>>>> I
> >>>>>>>> suspect that the term was at least unofficially used within
> >>>> Tandy.  I
> >>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>> see the name mentioned in Bill and Boisy's CoCo history book.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Art
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Camillus Blockx <
> >>>>>>> camillus.b.58 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Only Super I know is Super Extended Color Basic (Cc3)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2017 12:42 AM, "Wayne Campbell" <
> >> asa.rand at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If I have it correctly:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> CB = Color Basic by Microsoft
> >>>>>>>>>> ECB = Extended Color Basic by Microsoft) OS-9 had to be
> >>>> launched
> >>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>> running
> >>>>>>>>>> a file on the OS-9 boot floppy
> >>>>>>>>>> SCB = Super Ciolor Basic by Microsoft and Microware (CoCo 3
> >>>> only,
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>> DOS command for launching OS-9)
> >>>>>>>>>> DECB = Disk Extended Color Basic by Microsoft (two
> >> versions,
> >>>> 1.1
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> 1.2)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think that is all of them.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Salvador Garcia via Coco <
> >>>>>>>>>> coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I think I found some information. SECB is Super Extended
> >>>> Color
> >>>>>>> BASIC
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> was released with the CoCo 3, and included software
> >>> licensed
> >>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>> Microware.
> >>>>>>>>>>> The "equivalent" BASIC on previous models did not have y
> >>>>>> Microware
> >>>>>>>>> code.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Is the ROM BASIC list complete as presented in the
> >> subject
> >>>>> line?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Salvador
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>      From: Salvador Garcia via Coco <
> >> coco at maltedmedia.com
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <
> >>>>>> coco at maltedmedia.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Salvador Garcia <salvadorgarciav at yahoo.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:14 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Coco] CB, ECB, DECB, & SECB
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> These are:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Color BASICExtended Color BASICDisk Extended Color BASIC
> >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure what SECB is... Super, Supreme, Superior... ?
> >>>>>>>>>>> If I understand correctly, these are all the ROMs that
> >> were
> >>>>>>> released
> >>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>> Tandy/Radio Shack in the Color Computer.Is that correct?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! Salvador
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Wayne
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The Structure of I-Code
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/
> >> index.php/The_Structure_of_I-
> >>>> Code
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> decode
> >>>>>>>>>> http://cococoding.com/wayne/
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>>> Wayne
> >>>>
> >>>> The Structure of I-Code
> >>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/The_Structure_of_I-Code
> >>>>
> >>>> decode
> >>>> http://cococoding.com/wayne/
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wayne
> >>
> >> The Structure of I-Code
> >> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/The_Structure_of_I-Code
> >>
> >> decode
> >> http://cococoding.com/wayne/
> >>
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