[Coco] CB, ECB, DECB, & SECB
David Ladd
davidwladd at gmail.com
Thu Jul 13 01:04:51 EDT 2017
Glen,
That is cool. Well I guess there is reference finally from a official book
that does list it as Super Extended Basic :P
Amazing how hard and yet easy some information is to find.
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On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 9:57 PM, Glen Hewlett <glen.hewlett at sympatico.ca>
wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> I know this is an old thread now but I thought you guys might like to know
> I was looking at the Memory Map on page 311 of my Color Computer 3 Extended
> Basic Manual that came with my CoCo 3 and near the bottom it says:
>
> 516096-523775 Super Extended BASIC 7E000-7FDFF
>
> I don’t see a version number on my manual but it has some copyright
> notices of 1986.
>
> So there is one official document from Radio Shack that did call it Super
> Extended BASIC.
>
> Cheers,
> Glen
>
> > On Jun 11, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > I prefer Super Extended Basic myself, simply because the name kind of
> stuck
> > after the Unravelled volume came out.
> >
> > Art
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks, David. I just thought I remembered such a name and decided to
> throw
> >> it out there. Yes, I believe it is a matter of what the users as a whole
> >> think. As for me, any of the 3 will do, but I sort like the Super
> version.
> >> Makess it sound like it's souped up.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:39 AM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Wayne,
> >>>
> >>> That is for sure a possible name. Though the enhanced that was in
> front
> >> of
> >>> the Extended Color Basic was lower case so i don't think they intended
> >> the
> >>> enhanced to be part of the name. Though after all these years I guess
> it
> >>> comes to what the majority want to call it.
> >>>
> >>> Kinda like ain't didn't use to be in the dictionary, but now it is.
> Just
> >>> depends on how much the masses use it or want to use something on a
> >>> specific way. (*shrug*)
> >>>
> >>> So overall I guess from my point of view is what does the masses want
> it
> >>> called? Do we want it called Super Extended Color Basic? Or maybe
> >> Wayne's
> >>> idea of Enhanced Extended Color Basic? Or Extended Color Basic V2?
> lol.
> >>> We have so many options. :D
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> EECB = Enhanced Extended Color Basic?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:31 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Art,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I looked at the PDF of the original manual that came with the CoCo 3.
> >>> It
> >>>>> refers to the updated basic in the CoCo 3 as "Extended Color Basic
> >>>> Version
> >>>>> 2". I did not see anywhere where I read a reference to Super
> >> Extended
> >>>>> Color Basic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My opinion it is probably something the group adopted to make it
> >> easier
> >>>> to
> >>>>> distinguesh between the Extended Basic 1.x on the CoCo 1 & 2's verses
> >>> the
> >>>>> expanded command set in the Extended Basic 2.x on the CoCo 3.
> >>> Otherwise
> >>>> if
> >>>>> you were to look at it probably should be named what???? ECBv2?
> >>>> (*shrug*)
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> That doesn't match my recollection, but perhaps someone here has
> >> that
> >>>>>> booklet and can say whether or not it used the term Super Extended
> >>>> Color
> >>>>>> Basic.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Art
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Camillus Blockx <
> >>>>> camillus.b.58 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I do think it was on the booklet that came with the Coco 3
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cb
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2017 5:20 PM, "Arthur Flexser" <flexser at fiu.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ...which brings up the question of whether the term Super
> >>> Extended
> >>>>>> Color
> >>>>>>>> Basic is in fact the official Tandy designation or not. I
> >> first
> >>>> saw
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> term in the title of Spectral Associates' Super Extended Basic
> >>>>>>> Unravelled.
> >>>>>>>> I have not seen it in anything from Tandy, and the term does
> >> not
> >>>>> appear
> >>>>>>> in
> >>>>>>>> the CoCo 3 startup screen. Then again, Spectral Associates
> >> have
> >>>>> worked
> >>>>>>>> with Tandy on various things, and I heard from somewhere long
> >> ago
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>> were given one of the CoCo 3 prototypes for development
> >> purposes,
> >>>> so
> >>>>> I
> >>>>>>>> suspect that the term was at least unofficially used within
> >>>> Tandy. I
> >>>>>>> don't
> >>>>>>>> see the name mentioned in Bill and Boisy's CoCo history book.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Art
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Camillus Blockx <
> >>>>>>> camillus.b.58 at gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Only Super I know is Super Extended Color Basic (Cc3)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2017 12:42 AM, "Wayne Campbell" <
> >> asa.rand at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If I have it correctly:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> CB = Color Basic by Microsoft
> >>>>>>>>>> ECB = Extended Color Basic by Microsoft) OS-9 had to be
> >>>> launched
> >>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>> running
> >>>>>>>>>> a file on the OS-9 boot floppy
> >>>>>>>>>> SCB = Super Ciolor Basic by Microsoft and Microware (CoCo 3
> >>>> only,
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> has
> >>>>>>>>>> DOS command for launching OS-9)
> >>>>>>>>>> DECB = Disk Extended Color Basic by Microsoft (two
> >> versions,
> >>>> 1.1
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> 1.2)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think that is all of them.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Salvador Garcia via Coco <
> >>>>>>>>>> coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I think I found some information. SECB is Super Extended
> >>>> Color
> >>>>>>> BASIC
> >>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> was released with the CoCo 3, and included software
> >>> licensed
> >>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>> Microware.
> >>>>>>>>>>> The "equivalent" BASIC on previous models did not have y
> >>>>>> Microware
> >>>>>>>>> code.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Is the ROM BASIC list complete as presented in the
> >> subject
> >>>>> line?
> >>>>>>>>>>> Salvador
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Salvador Garcia via Coco <
> >> coco at maltedmedia.com
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <
> >>>>>> coco at maltedmedia.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Salvador Garcia <salvadorgarciav at yahoo.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:14 AM
> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Coco] CB, ECB, DECB, & SECB
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> These are:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Color BASICExtended Color BASICDisk Extended Color BASIC
> >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure what SECB is... Super, Supreme, Superior... ?
> >>>>>>>>>>> If I understand correctly, these are all the ROMs that
> >> were
> >>>>>>> released
> >>>>>>>> by
> >>>>>>>>>>> Tandy/Radio Shack in the Color Computer.Is that correct?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! Salvador
> >>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>> Wayne
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The Structure of I-Code
> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/
> >> index.php/The_Structure_of_I-
> >>>> Code
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> decode
> >>>>>>>>>> http://cococoding.com/wayne/
> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Wayne
> >>>>
> >>>> The Structure of I-Code
> >>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/The_Structure_of_I-Code
> >>>>
> >>>> decode
> >>>> http://cococoding.com/wayne/
> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wayne
> >>
> >> The Structure of I-Code
> >> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/The_Structure_of_I-Code
> >>
> >> decode
> >> http://cococoding.com/wayne/
> >>
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