[Papyrus-L] Anyone encountered this problem?

[Rodgers, John R.]

Dear listers,
     When I converted my Pap database (long live the Pap database) to EN, I was able to save the papyrus nos. in a user-defined field which I called "pap #".  I can't remember the details of the mapping, but it wasn't hard.  One feature that I loved in Papyrus, but haven't been able to emulate
directly so far, is the "text extract" function, which created a new group of all the references used in a particular manuscript.  You could then assign a keyword to all those members.  
   In EN you can create a "traveling library" of the citations in a given document, but there is no easy way (that I have figured out) of merging those back into the parent EN library.  Whenever you import documents you create a new EN record #,  [Here's a trick that might work:  
 1. make sure there are no duplicates in your database
 2. import the traveling library. This creates duplicates for every record used.
 3. Search for all duplicates.
 4. Add the keyword to all duplicates.
 5. Sort by record # and delete the duplicates with higher number.
 6. I think this would work.]
 -John Rodgers
  


 

-----Original Message-----
From: papyrus-l-bounces at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com [mailto:papyrus-l-bounces at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com] On Behalf Of Raisa Deber
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:12 AM
To: Papyrus Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Papyrus-L] Anyone encountered this problem?

As requested, I'm providing some additional information about this on list - Mike and Kan (our project manager) can give more details if required.  Evidently, the issue relates to how one formats/edits your import filters from EndNote (Edit/Import filters).  When you edit a particular filter you can
specify what %9 variables link to within  
EndNote.   You modify/add these links in the 'Templates' area when  
editing a filter.
Kan has managed to format these filters so that all fields can be transferred, for the benefit of our team members using EndNote. We're still maintaining the full database in Papyrus, and many of us (including me) are still sticking with Papyrus, but this gives us some flexibility, particularly for
those needing to text extract from Windows versions of Word.  BTW, I have been told that Endnote has also added a field to allow us to keep the Papyrus number, and even use it for text extracting.  This may or may not have anything to do with my request to Endnote a few years ago that they add that
functionality.


I hope this helps.

Raisa

On 17-Jul-07, at 1:50 PM, Raisa Deber wrote:


> Hi, Mike.  As luck would have it, our star project manager has been 

> working this out, and can help you out.  He'll e-mail you off list.

> Raisa Deber

>

> On 16-Jul-07, at 2:16 PM, Palmer, Mike wrote:

>

>> Dear listserv,

>>

>>

>>

>> On July 9, I sent a query to papyrus-l about conversion to Endnote as 

>> posted below.  I also attempted to contact the papyrus help email 

>> address, Endnote help personnel, and Dave Goldman directly.

>> Nobody has responded, nor even acknowledged receipt of my query 

>> (though I do realize that many people are away in July).

>>

>>

>>

>>  I suspect the reason for a lack of response is that either the 

>> problem is a quirk that only I have encountered, or it is a general 

>> problem that many have encountered but that nobody has yet solved.

>>

>>

>>

>> So let me ask another question: Has anyone else encountered this 

>> problem?  That is, when a reference is a thesis, does it get imported 

>> properly into EndNote?  Do editions of books get transferred 

>> properly?

>>

>>

>>

>> (this affects almost 1500 references in my bibliography, so I  

>> would prefer not to have to edit them all by hand!!).

>>

>>

>>

>> --Mike

>>

>>

>>

>> Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University

>> 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074

>> LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS:  

>> http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/

>> OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/     OSU Ecology: http:// 

>> ecology.okstate.edu

>>

>> From: Palmer, Mike

>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 12:46 PM

>> To: 'papyrus-l at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com'

>> Subject: conversion to Endnote: problems with theses and editions

>>

>>

>>

>> Dear listserv,

>>

>>

>>

>> I have (reluctantly) converted my Papyrus bibliography to Endnote  

>> using the conversion files and instructions given here: http:// 

>> endnote.com/support/enconversion.asp.  However, theses,  

>> dissertations and books do not get converted properly.  For  

>> example, '%9 Thesis' or '%9 Dissertation' becomes concatenated to  

>> the title in Endnote, and all information stored about the degree  

>> (e.g. MS, MA, BS etc.) is lost or at least invisible.  Similar odd  

>> things happen with the information about the editions of books.

>>

>>

>>

>> Does anyone know a fix to this problem?

>>

>>

>>

>> Many thanks,

>>

>>

>>

>> --Mike

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> Michael W. Palmer, Botany Department, Oklahoma State University

>> 104 LSE Stillwater OK 74078 USA 405-744-7717 fax:405-744-7074

>> LABORATORY FOR INNOVATIVE BIODIVERSITY RESEARCH AND ANALYSIS:  

>> http://ecology.okstate.edu/Libra/

>> OSU Botany: http://botany.okstate.edu/     OSU Ecology: http:// 

>> ecology.okstate.edu

>>

>>

>>

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> Raisa Deber, PhD

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> Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto

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Raisa Deber, PhD
Professor, Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation
Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto
Director, CIHR Team in Community Care and Health Human Resources  
(www.teamgrant.ca)
Health Sciences Building
155 College Street Suite 425
Toronto, ON  M5T 3M6
phone:  (416) 978-8366
fax:  (416) 978-7350
e-mail:  raisa.deber at utoronto.ca


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