[Papyrus-L] Migration from Papyrus

[Christopher F. Martin]

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Raisa Deber wrote:


> Since I have a non-Intel 

> Mac, I can text extract from Word documents.


Raisa,

  I am puzzled how how the Mac helps with this problem. I understood the 
Papyrus text-extract problem to arise from lack of compatibility with 
ever-newer versions of Word. Are you able to text extract because your 
(Mac) version of Word is older, or it is something intrinsic to the Mac 
environment?

Chris


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On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Raisa Deber wrote:


> Actually, the opposite.  We're hanging on to Papyrus because we have a fairly 

> large research group (including collaborators in multiple locations, which 

> means client-server approaches don't work too well), and haven't found an 

> alternative which allows us to assign unique identification numbers to 

> references.  (Most appear to do dynamic allocation).  We have over 14,000 

> references entered, have one master database (with a research assistant who 

> maintains it and posts revised bb files daily on the server), file material 

> (including electronic and hard copies) by their Papyrus number, using a 

> 'located' keyword to indicate where copies exist.  Since I have a non-Intel 

> Mac, I can text extract from Word documents.  (Otherwise, one has to use 

> WordPerfect, which I also had to abandon for similar reasons, or downsave to 

> Word 6/95 format.)  So we tend to use the process of having a master copy of 

> articles (with Papyrus numbers) which is sent electronically to co-authors by 

> the first author.  We  ask collaborators to use track changes, and the first 

> author then makes the changes on the master copy and I text extract it. 

> Trying to work with a colleague using EndNote was a nightmare, since we 

> didn't have the references!   We had to enter everything into Papyrus and 

> start it from scratch.

>

> Indeed, we've started using the nomenclature of "wiki" to indicate that we're 

> hoping our researchers will suggest entries, corrections, keywords, etc. 

> We're also allowing people to tag their references (with a researcher- set of 

> keywords) in the master Papyrus data base, which they then can export to 

> their own reference managers, if they'd like.

> So - which if any of the alternatives allow fixed identification numbers? 

> And are useable for both Mac and PC?

> Raisa Deber

> On 13-Apr-07, at 7:12 AM, Rodgers, John R. wrote:

>

>> Richard's comments point up a difficulty for those of us who co-author or 

>> otherwise shared e-texts.  This is the same problem that made me give up 

>> WordPerfect- no one else in my circle uses it.  Searching using Endnote is 

>> a problem for me because I have a very large database, but it is no problem 

>> for the students I teach who for the most part have small databases. 

>> Similarly, when I co-author I need to use a common reference managing 

>> program.  I imagine that many of those who have managed to hang on to using 

>> Papyrus are sole authors.?

>> 

>> 

>> John R. Rodgers, Ph.D.

>> Department of Immunology

>> Baylor College of Medicine

>> Houston, Texas 77030

>> 713-798-3903

>> fax: 713-798-3700

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Personally I use Emacs both for writing the documents and for

>> manipulating the BibTeX files but there are Java based programs that

>> will do it.

>> 

>> Of course, it does require learning LaTeX, but its much better than

>> using Word anyway, IMHO

>> 

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> Raisa Deber, PhD

> Professor, Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation

> Faculty of Medicine, University of Toronto

> Director, M-THAC (From Medicare to Home and Community) Research Unit 

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