[Papyrus-L] Word 2002

[Raisa Deber]

At 01:47 PM 7/29/2003 -0400, Thomas Gill wrote:

>thanks, but I don't think that I can go back to saving in Word 95
>because the formatting of my tables then get screwed up.  Endnote might
>be in my future, although I prefer to keep working with Papyrus.  Any
>other ideas?

OK, since the issue seems to be with Microsoft file formats, I looked it up 
on the Microsoft page (I'm still using Word 2000, when I use Word; I far 
prefer WordPerfect).
on: 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/office/officexp/deploy/formtmig.asp

I found information about "migrating Word, Excel, and PowerPoint File formats".

The crux of the article seems to be that Microsoft had a common underlying 
file format for Office 97, Office2000 and Office XP, but that this has 
since changed.  They particularly mention nested tables (which may be what 
is giving you problems) as a feature which isn't supported in earlier 
versions of Word. When I looked up nested tables, I found a number of other 
articles referring to errors caused with trying to open these in Word for 
Mac, in HTML, and so on.  Also data corruption caused by pasting, freezing 
the computer, and so on.

Since you indicate that the formatting of your tables gets screwed up, I 
would first look at how you are setting up your tables, and seeing whether 
you really need (or want) to use the features which are causing 
problems.  Formatting is one thing, but there are some indications from the 
material I checked that there may also be hidden problems with updating 
formulas, etc. which can introduce errors.  Reading between the lines, this 
feature still seems to be buggy (e.g., knowledge base articles with 
workarounds about what to do when pasting information in causes the styles 
to be lost).

As for solutions, the migration page is aimed at getting offices to adopt 
their new packages  Since offices are not happy about losing the ability to 
share files, Microsoft appears to have incorporated something called a 
dual-save feature, which they say can also be set in Group Policies or 
System Policies.  They also tend to recommend saving to RTF.  At any rate, 
this should be manageable.

It appears that some problems are introduced with ANY third party software 
(one of the Knowledge Base articles makes reference to wrong information 
that they gave developers), so Endnote may or may not present similar 
problems, depending on how it is integrated with Word.

As for converters, see:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;291481
for what Microsoft provides.

Hope this helps.  (Hard to know, since I have not yet moved to Word 2002).
Raisa Deber





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> >>> ray at leicester.ac.uk 7/29/03 11:08:53 AM >>>
>Word 2002 has a "save as" option of "Word 6.0/95 (*.doc)". Use that
>and text extract will work okay.
>
>Raymond Dalgleish
>(recently jumped ship to EndNote 7.0
>  but still has a soft spot for Papyrus)
>
>
>
> >
> > Hi Dave:
> >
> > My desktop computer was recently replaced and now I have a version
>of
> > Word 2002 in an NT environment.  I am using a macro to paste Payrus
> > references into my Word 2002 documents, but when I try to run the
> > document through text extract to generate my references, the
>formatting
> > of the document gets messed up.
> >
> > On the Papyrus web site, I see that Word 2000 is supported, but do
>not
> > see anything about Word 2002.  Word 2002 will not allow me to save
>the
> > file as a Word 2000 file (that would be too easy, I guess).  The
>only
> > option appears to be Word97-2002 & 6.0/95 - RTF.doc, which is not
> > recognized by Papyrus.
> >
> > Can you please provide me with some advice?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom Gill
> >
> >
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> > Yale University School of Medicine
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Raisa B. Deber, PhD
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