[Papyrus-L] help for a real novice, please
Raisa Deber
raisa.deber at utoronto.ca
Thu Jun 19 22:00:40 EDT 2003
At 03:56 PM 6/19/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>we recently purchased the papyrus software and our IT consultant loaded it
>for us. he's been back since to reload it, but I'm still having problems
>trying to get started. the first screen that comes up asks me if I want
>to create a fresh database. I say yes and it defaults to a location, but
>won't accept that location.
What do you mean by this? What location does it default to?
> I've tried to change the location and it won't accept that either. I
> get an error message that says "either someone is is using the papyrus
> database in this directory (NOT) or you are not allowed to create new
> files here (NOT) or there is no such directory (NOT). Is this something
> to do with the path?
What system are you running?
I'd guess that the problem is probably arising because you are using long
path names. Papyrus runs as a DOS program, and hence uses the abbreviated
names (usually the first six characters, followed by ~1 and then the
extension). You can get Papyrus to follow the paths (usually by eliciting
a menu).
Use the backspace key to delete the existing path, and then enter c:\ (or
whatever disk you wish) and then enter a return. (If you had a short path,
you could have typed in the full thing - this is the lazy typist's approach
I'm giving here.) Papyrus will respond with a wildcard (* ) in the
filename field. Hit Enter again. Papyrus will show you the options. Select
the one you want, and hit Enter.
Once it has found your path, it will remember it. (The same holds for text
extract.)
However, I've found it FAR easier to just set up a sub-directory called
pap, and put the new database there. Mine is on my C drive, but you can
also put it on a server.
If you contact me off list, I can send you a manual we created for our
students here. It has a lot of our own conventions, but might be
helpful. We've found it a great package.
Sincerely
Raisa Deber
> I've read the manual but can't seem to get past this. Hoping someone
> can help - Many thanks, Kim
>
>Kim Polvi, MLIS
>Integrative Health Institute
>#100, 2310 2d St SW
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>"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,/ Than are dreamt of
>in your philosophy."
>
>
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> 1. Re: Papyrus, Windows XP and Office XP. (Roberto Tuda Rivas)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 11:53:24 +0100 (BST)
>From: Roberto Tuda Rivas <hbpe5 at central.susx.ac.uk>
>To: papyrus-l at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com
>Subject: Re: [Papyrus-L] Papyrus, Windows XP and Office XP.
>Reply-To: papyrus-l at ResearchSoftwareDesign.com
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>A different programme that pretended to substitute Papyrus. Excellent,
>but it still has not a way to rationally store your notecards.
>Roberto
>
>On Thu, 12 Jun 2003, Dr. Bryna (Rina) Bogoch wrote:
>
> > i am interested in your solution but i dont know if i understand it.
> > what is endnote, i see endnotes on my word, which is like footnotes,
> > but i dont see an endnote, is that a different program or one that comes
> > with windows, word, etc. thanks, bryna
> >
> > Roberto Tuda Rivas wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, I was thinking in another kind of problem, that of creating a
> > > list of references, but you are talking about a manuscript. Sorry for
> > > that.
> > > What a pity that Papyrus is not being updated anymore. Now I use
> > > Papyrus in combination with Endnote. In papyrus I store all my
> > > references and notecards. I write my papers in Word with Endnote. The
> > > trick is that I import to Endnote from Papyrus all my references,
> > > every time that I feed papyrus with new references.
> > > This way I do not have to process a manuscript and Endnote is much
> > > more flexible than Papyrus when it comes to creating the bibliography
> > > and in-text citations.
> > > Regards
> > > Roberto
> > >
> > >
> > > --On 12 June 2003 12:52 +0100 "Dr R. Dalgleish" <ray at leicester.ac.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Many thanks for the response. However, I'm not sure what it is that
> > >> you are suggesting that I do. Papyrus needs to strip out the
> > >> reference codes from the original document and create a .new document
> > >> that has the formatted citations (names or numbers) in their place.
> > >>
> > >> The problem that I am having is that Papyrus has a problem writing
> > >> that .new file when the starting file is in Word 2002(XP) format.
> > >> It's probably that it is having difficulty reading the source file.
> > >> Papyrus does not offer me the opportunity to do anything other than
> > >> to choose the name of the .new file.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, I think that I have found a work-around. I save the Word
> > >> document in Word 95 format first, then do the text extract. The .new
> > >> file that is written seems to open fine in Word 2002. It's just a
> > >> pity that Papyrus cannot read the default version of .doc written by
> > >> Office XP.
> > >>
> > >> Raymond Dalgleish
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> I never let Papyrus create a .new file. Why don't you try and create a
> > >>> .doc file from Papyrus, when Papyrus gives you that option? Then you
> > >>> only wait for Word to change from Work to Word and save the file in
> > >>> Word format. I am not sure that this is the solution to your problem,
> > >>> but it could work. Roberto Tuda
> > >>>
> > >>> --On Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:08 PM +0100 Raymond Dalgleish
> > >>> <ray at leicester.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > I am running Papyrus 7.0.16c under windows XP without any major
> > >>> > problems. However, when I try to create a manuscript, the .NEW file
> > >>> > that is created from my original Word 2002 file will not open in
> > >>> Word.
> > >>> > It's a problem that others have seen in the past but seemed to be
> > >>> > related to a large file based on tables.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Has anybody else had this problem, and have a solution?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Thanks,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Raymond Dalgleish
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
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Raisa B. Deber, PhD
Department of Health Policy, Management and Evaluation
University of Toronto
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