[NHRC-user] NHRC-4/M2 Question

Mon Mar 4 17:10:35 EST 2002

Hi,
   If you initialize a NHRC-4, you must reprogram it.

   Generally, the CW ID alone is enough.

   Regards,

   Jeff

At 08:12 AM 3/4/2002, you wrote:
>Jeff,
>
>I have a spare controller and will swap units with our 440 controller to see
>if this problem continues. I appreciate your help. Guess this repeater must
>be hexed.
>
>Is there a way to do a reset of the controller or must you reprogram all
>entries?
>
>David L. Shiplett
>Warner Robins Operations Manager
>LH Network, Inc.
>211 Independence Drive
>Warner Robins, GA 31088
>email: Daves at lhnetwork.com
>(478) 971-3281 (V)
>(478) 971-3481 (F)
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>From:   nhrc-user-admin at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-admin at nhrc.net]  On Behalf
>Of Jeff Otterson
>Sent:   Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:37 PM
>To:     nhrc-user at nhrc.net
>Subject:        RE: [NHRC-user] NHRC-4/M2 Question
>
>Hi David,
>
>    IT would require more than the TS-32 to give you a valid input on the
>NHRC-4.  If you are hooked up with the CTCSS-required scenario, you will
>need CAS(COR) and CTCSS to indicate valid signal to the NHRC-4.
>
>    If you would like, we can check out your controller for you.  Give us a
>call and we can arrange this.
>
>    Regards,
>
>    Jeff Otterson
>    NHRC LLC
>
>
>
>At 04:48 PM 3/3/2002, you wrote:
> >Just an update here it is Sunday afternoon and the unit keeps on ticking
> >with a courtesy tone every 4 minutes and then an ID at 10 and the cycle
> >starts over again. This is with no signal input that I know of now at the
> >repeater site.
> >
> >Has anyone seen a TS-32 fail in this manner? The unit is on PL access only
> >so something is setting off controller on specific intervals.
> >
> >Dave AC4MU
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nhrc-user-admin at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-admin at nhrc.net]On Behalf
>Of
> >David Shiplett
> >Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 7:34 AM
> >To: nhrc-user at nhrc.net
> >Subject: RE: [NHRC-user] NHRC-4/M2 Question
> >
> >The tones are reliable and it doesn't seem to have a problem there. I
> >installed the repeater back at the site last night.
> >
> >Sitting here this morning with all thing quiet. I kerchunked the unit to
>get
> >it into an ID cycle. After the ID at the 4 minute point it does a key up
> >with a courtesy tone. Then again at 8 minutes and then I get an ID and the
> >cycle starts all over.
> >
> >Could be the TS-32. The timing of it is what is so puzzling. It is way to
> >precise. I wouldn't think anything in the GE M2 base unit would cause this
> >as the only card in the rack is the 10 volt regulator and we are not using
> >anything else. I was thinking that maybe something in the pre-amp might be
> >going...but again it happens at specific times.
> >
> >I actually turned down the ID volume and because of complaint early on
> >thinking it was a site related problem.
> >
> >It will be beaten!
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nhrc-user-admin at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-admin at nhrc.net]On Behalf
>Of
> >Jeff Otterson
> >Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 7:35 PM
> >To: nhrc-user at nhrc.net
> >Subject: RE: [NHRC-user] NHRC-4/M2 Question
> >
> >What is confusing to me is that both the CAS and PTT lights flicker.
> >
> >This is why I thought it could be static discharge.
> >
> >Do the DTMF tones reliably decode?
> >
> >Jeff...
> >
> >
> >
> >At 07:01 AM 3/1/2002, you wrote:
> > >I will try a couple of other experiments to narrow this down. The problem
> > >had been ongoing at the repeater site but was written off as intermod or
> > >some other cause from around the repeater site.
> > >
> > >The signal source is a CT-3000B and it may be some noise from it. But
>that
> > >won't explain it happening at the repeater site. I could see a receiver
> > >problem but not at exact intervals.
> > >
> > >I did monitor the TS-32 and cannot see any logic pulse on it each time
> > >happens.
> > >
> > >What is way too confusing is the repeatablility of the problem at exactly
>4
> > >minute intervals. It is like a timer is doing this.
> > >
> > >Will keep looking.
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: nhrc-user-admin at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-admin at nhrc.net]On Behalf
> >Of
> > >PETER GAILUNAS
> > >Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:31 PM
> > >To: nhrc-user at nhrc.net
> > >Subject: RE: [NHRC-user] NHRC-4/M2 Question
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >Pete here from NHRC.
> > >
> > >If the Green CAS led will only illuminate if both CAS and PL are
> > >satisfied.  The controller handles this function with simple transistor
> > >logic.
> > >If the green led flickers it is because it is getting a valid signal from
> > >the MASTR-II and the pl decoder.  If the green LED flickers the
>controller
> > >thinks a signal is present and starts doing it job.
> > >The ID cycle starts and will continue indefinitely if the CAS led keeps
> > >flickering.
> > >
> > >
> > >It could be a tone decoder problem,  It could be intermod.  It may be
> > >possible that the tone decoder is responding intermittently to some
> > >distortion component of the 1KHZ signal.  It only needs to be for a
> > >fraction of a sec to create a valid CAS and start the cycle.    The
> > >distortion may be due to IF issues.
> > >
> > >I don't think it is a controller related problem.
> > >
> > >let me know if this helps.
> > >
> > >
> > >Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 08:16 PM 2/28/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >This sounds like a hardware problem.  Let's see what Pete has to say
> >about
> > >it.
> > > >
> > > >My guess is static discharge.  I could be way off base, but that's my
> > > >first guess.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >
> > > >Jeff
> > > >
> > > >At 08:03 PM 2/28/2002, you wrote:
> > > >>NHRC-4/M2...
> > > >>
> > > >>Jeff,
> > > >>
> > > >>I was also wrong about the led that I thought was the RB is actually
>the
> > > >>main receiver green LED. A couple of other pieces of information. I am
> > > >>applying a continuous signal on the receiver with a 1khz tone. I am
> >using
> > >PL
> > > >>decode only to access the repeater. I have checked the 10 regulator in
> >it
> > > >>appears clean. What has me perplexed is the every 4 minute hit on the
> >main
> > > >>COS and PTT line. Without any corresponding change in the receiver.
> >After
> > > >>the second hit in a couple of minutes the unit ID's and the cycle
>starts
> > > >>over.
> > > >>
> > > >>Dave
> > > >>
> > > >>Dave
> > > >>
> > > >>-----Original Message-----
> > > >>From: nhrc-user-admin at nhrc.net [mailto:nhrc-user-admin at nhrc.net]On
> >Behalf
> > >Of
> > > >>Jeff Otterson
> > > >>Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:58 PM
> > > >>To: nhrc-user at nhrc.net
> > > >>Subject: Re: [NHRC-user] NHRC-4/M2 Question
> > > >>
> > > >>Hi David,
> > > >>    Which controller are you referring to?
> > > >>
> > > >>    Jeff Otterson
> > > >>    NHRC LLC
> > > >>
> > > >>At 02:15 PM 2/28/2002, you wrote:
> > > >> >Has anyone had a situation where the NHRC appears to get a reset
> >signal
> > >on
> > > >>a
> > > >> >periodic reoccurring basis. I am experiencing a problem where we
>seem
> >to
> > >be
> > > >> >getting an ID every 11  12 minutes. Upon watching the unit I see a
> >false
> > > >> >signal setting off the RB PTT and the Main PTT every 3 minutes 55
> > >seconds
> > > >> >give or take a few.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >The unit is being operated in PL mode only using a TS-32 so you
>would
> > >thing
> > > >> >nothing should false the line to reset the timer for CW ID. You may
> >even
> > > >>get
> > > >> >a courtesy tone at the PTT event but not always.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Also, what is the difference between rev a and rev b units?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >David L. Shiplett
> > > >> >Warner Robins Operations Manager
> > > >> >LH Network, Inc.
> > > >> >211 Independence Drive
> > > >> >Warner Robins, GA 31088
> > > >> >email: Daves at lhnetwork.com
> > > >> >(478) 971-3281 (V)
> > > >> >(478) 971-3481 (F)
> > > >> >
> > > >>
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