[Coco] Fresh new retro computing article!

Mon May 27 22:22:09 EDT 2019

Brian Blake since you've already stated you've never listened to the
CoCoTALK! show, because you don't have time for it, and you get all your
news from this list, and the CoCo Crew you aren't really qualified to speak
as to what my attitude is, but what I can say, is that my attitude and the
focus of our show has been 100% non-biased and always will be, but this can
not be said for what's going on right now with the whole anti-trust faction
that's become so vocal.

Your comments about me ruining Facebook are really regarding me calling you
out for being a Fascist in our private admin channel, where I expressed my
contrasting opinions over the continued witch hunt over banning and
censoring a member who spoke out against a post that discredited another
vendor.  The admins of the facebook group took it upon themselves to harass
and block someone on the group because they lied about who they were or
their intentions, but in reality, in my opinion, it's because this person
called BS on the post trying to discredit the boomerang board.  This person
chose to use a pseudonym I'm sure, to try and avoid retribution, and the
behavior of the admins and may other people on the group who are Camp
Cloud-9 Ra-Ra proved them to have made the right move, because that person
is still banned and still being harassed.

I have an issue with censorship, hypocrisy,  and harassment and made that
known, in a private forum, but, if that makes me holier than though for
wanting to defend free speech, and try and prevent censorship, then I'm
guilty as charged.

There are larger more fundamental issues here than somebody making a
product that cuts into somebody's profits, and that's using articles like
this to disguise the fact that people's personal interests and bias are
being used to try and influence the community and I have a fundamental
issue with this, I think it's wrong, I don't think I'm holier than anyone,
but I won't sit in silence while behavior like this continues to happen.

The people who are against competition are the ones who have profit to lose
from it, so it's not the "community" that's trying to be protected here,
it's control, or the loss of, that's prompting this anti-trust behavior.

Just because we don't like reality, doesn't mean we can change it, but some
are trying real hard.

The Original Gamer Stevie Strow
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On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 9:56 PM Brian Blake <random.rodder at gmail.com> wrote:

> 'The whole chart idea was ill conceived to start with.'
>
> Why? As long as logical discussion follows, there's no problem. What IS a
> problem is when others say they are speaking on behalf of one of the
> selling entities when in fact they are not, and the seller has never heard
> of the person, THAT is a problem.
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2019, 9:48 PM D. Bruce Moore <bruce at gracenote.ca> wrote:
>
> > "ignore the excellent advice in Boisy's article and go ahead and produce
> > hardware in direct competition to an established product, at least
> refrain
> > from specifically targeting that product and drawing up a hit-list of
> > cherry-picked "features". That's just kicking sand in someone's face.”
> >
> > Mark McDougall, who do you think drew up that hit-list?  It wasn’t the
> guy
> > who produced a competing product, it was the guy who had the current
> > product dissing his new competitor.  That new competitor responded with a
> > chart refuting a long list of errors.  The whole chart idea was ill
> > conceived to start with.
> >
> > > On May 27, 2019, at 7:55 PM, Mark McDougall <msmcdoug at iinet.net.au>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On 28/05/2019 9:28 am, tonym wrote:
> > >
> > >> Has ANY other group of user around a machine ever had as much
> > >> in-fighting as the CoCo has over the past 2 decades? We've had so
> > >> many "events," battles, and situations, that it is absolutely beyond
> > >> belief.
> > >
> > > I don't think you'll find the CoCo community is any worse than other
> > retro-computing/gaming based communities on the net.
> > >
> > > I have a fairly broad interest across the retro computing/gaming hobby
> > arena and there's squabbles and in-fighting everywhere. A lot of it
> fairly
> > minor and isolated, but every now and then it can erupt into a
> "religious"
> > war between factions. The NeoSD vs Darksoft is a very relevant example in
> > the Neo Geo scene where two recently developed products that have
> > essentially the same function seem to have polarized the community.
> > >
> > > The Neo Geo community is notorious for its general intolerance towards
> > "noobs". The Atari forums are rife with constant, albeit low-level,
> > squabbles. The Apple II scene has recently had its feathers ruffled by a
> > very green would-be hardware developer. Plenty of squabbles behind the
> > scenes of the MAMEDEV group. The list goes on...
> > >
> > > The CoCo community is relatively small but thanks in no small part to
> > the CoCoCrew Podcast, Stevie's Videos and CoCoFest & Tandy Assembly
> events
> > has seen a huge resurgence in recent years. I also personally think the
> > CoCoSDC has been the most significant hardware development in quite a
> > while, and itself responsible for people spending more time playing with
> > their CoCo hardware. But to be honest by the same token I've sort of
> being
> > expecting the bubble to burst; for some of the leading personalities to
> > burn out and move onto other things, and the scene to settle back down
> to a
> > less chaotic - although hopefully still vibrant - status quo.
> > >
> > > Lastly, I'll re-iterate what I said in a post somewhere a few weeks
> ago.
> > If you do decide to ignore the excellent advice in Boisy's article and go
> > ahead and produce hardware in direct competition to an established
> product,
> > at least refrain from specifically targeting that product and drawing up
> a
> > hit-list of cherry-picked "features". That's just kicking sand in
> someone's
> > face.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mark McDougall
> > > <http://retroports.blogspot.com.au>
> > >
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