[Coco] What ever Happened to NineServer ?

Bill Pierce ooogalapasooo at aol.com
Tue Jun 5 21:52:35 EDT 2018

There is no "Nineserver" system as far as I know. That was a name used during early development for what was going to be what DriveWire4 became.
All you need is the latest version of DriveWire4, which is "4.3.3.o" or "4.3.3.p" (the last was just a bugfix for a non-working turbo mode). Or the "4.4.3.e" developer's edition, which is not publicly available except on my website (Aaron took his original link down).

Here's pics of VCC running DriveWire_Becker and opening a Z window. This works on VCC, XRoar, Mame, Coco3FPGA, and real Cocos.

Booting NitrOS9:

Starting a Z window:

Using a Z window:



Bill Pierce
"Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull

My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia

E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com



-----Original Message-----
From: coco <coco at jechar.ca>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 9:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco] What ever Happened to NineServer ?

Still not getting anyware I tried replacing CoGRF with CoWIN whichdoes solve some other unrelated problems I was having ( with the coco mouse ) but does not fix the nine server problem.Is it possible to have both CoGRF and CoWIN - When I tryed the system would not even boot.Oh do you have a working nine server system, if so if I could see the list of modules that makes up OS9Boot perhaps I could figure out what is missing ( or interfering ) in my system to prevent nineserver windows.ThanksOn 2018-06-05 10:42, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:> The "Z" terminal windows have very little (if anything) to do with> inetd or httpd. That's a whole new ballgame. Basically, you are trying> to do two different things.> To use the Z descriptor is simple. After boot just type> shell i=/Zx&> That is all that is needed. You should be able to use the window on> your PC immediately as you've created a shell for it to run on. Those> windows are not configurable and have their own default settings.> I'm pretty sure inetd & httpd are meant for using with the "/Nx"> series and/or the DW version of /term (for headless) using the TCP> and/or hayes modem command set.> The real problem is we have several access methods, none of which are> properly documented (the DW4 wiki is about 12 upgrades behind), and> none of which were completely finished.> I know Brett Gordon has done more with the inetd & tcp stuff as I> haven't worked with it at all other than to log into telnet BBSs.> > > > > > Bill Pierce> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way> to slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull> > My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page> > E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com> > > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: coco <coco at jechar.ca>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>> Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2018 7:56 am> Subject: Re: [Coco] What ever Happened to NineServer ?> > I have made some progress, I now get a window opening but when I try> to type into a shell in that window the coco completely crashes to> "gibberish screen".All relevant details below.A. My inetd.conf# inetd> configuration file format:# ListenPort <server opts>,Process,Params#> valid server options are: telnet auth protect banner6810 telnet> protect banner,login,8810,httpd,80,runb,httpdB. The script I am> running from term to try to start the z shell.inetd<>>>/w6&display 1b> 20 02 0 0 50 18 07 02 02 >/n6xmode /n6 eko=1shell i=/z6&C. The modules> in memory at the time.    Module Directory at 08:24:13REL         Boot>        Krn         KrnP2       IOMan       InitRBF         rbdw3> dw3         X0          X1       X2X3          XF          RBSuper>    lltc3       llide       02IH          0T DD          rb1773      D0>          D1SCF         VTIO        KeyDrv      SndDrv      JoyDrv> CoGrfTerm        W           W1          W2          W3 W4W5> W6          W7          W8          W9          W10W11         W12>     scdwv       N           N1          N2N3          N4> scdwn N5          N6      N7N8          N9          MIDI        Z1>          Z2    Z3Z4          Z5       Z6          Z7          scdwp>       pPipeMan     Piper       Pipe        Clock Clock2> GrfDrvShell       Date        DeIniz      Echo        Iniz> LinkLoad   Save        Unlink      Attr        Build> CopyDel         Deldir      Dir      Display     List> MakDirMDir        Merge       Mfree       Procs       Rename> TModecls         Wtype       type        WCreateNote I added an EMPTY> line either side of the SCF group to make it stand out.Notes about my> modules - scdwn was added so DW4MAN would work.> - dd 01 and 0T are master drive partitions.                        -> rb1773 D0 and  D1 could be removed        (for more memory) as I have> no multipack.                       - IH is the discriptor that allows> me to        edit the OS9Boot file for the IDE hard drive.Hope this> helps.Thanks, CharlieOn 2018-06-04 20:17, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:>> Yes, originally Aaron was using the "/Nx" descriptors but there was a>> lot of confusion. The "/MIDI" is a descriptor within itself and named>> as such. Actually, it is "/N14" just renamed as MIDI can only be>> translated through virtual channel N14.> The "/Zx" series is dedicated> to the virtual terminal modes, though> they use the same driver> (scdwv.dr). I think it was Aaron's intention> to eventually create a> new dedicated "Z" driver with a more robust> command set and proabably> would have included graphics.> > > > > > Bill Pierce> "Charlie stole> the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way> to slow down!"> - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull> > My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack> Color Computer 2 & 3> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page> > E-Mail:> ooogalapasooo at aol.com> > > > > > -----Original Message-----> From:> coco <coco at jechar.ca>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts> <coco at maltedmedia.com>> Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2018 2:52 pm> Subject: Re:> [Coco] What ever Happened to NineServer ?> > I thought those were just> for MIDI so I had not installed them yet.I> will add them to my boot> changeing references like N5 to Z5 perhaps> the Youtube refers to an> older version where N is used rather then Z.> I will update you about> my progress tomorrow.On 2018-06-04 13:16, Bill> Pierce via Coco> wrote:> If you are referring to just running a NitrOS9> terminal> window on the> PC with the Coco as the server using DW4, then> yes,> it's still there.> First you need the "/Zx" desriptors along with> the> "scdwv.dr" (as well> as normal dw boot stuff)> Boot NitrOS9 with> DW4> access. Type "shell /Zx&". x being the Z window> number (Z1-Z8).> And> yes, include the ampersand.> At this point, an 80x24 text window>> should appear on your PC in which> you have access to the Coco &>> NitrOS9. You can run programs and such,> but no graphics.> > > > > >>> Bill Pierce> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop>> going, no way> to slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull> > My> Music> from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3>>> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/> Co-Contributor,> Co-Editor> for CocoPedia>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page> >> E-Mail:> ooogalapasooo at aol.com> > > > > > -----Original Message----->> From:> coco <coco at jechar.ca>> To: Coco List <coco at maltedmedia.com>>> Sent:> Mon, Jun 4, 2018 9:23 am> Subject: [Coco] What ever Happened to>> NineServer ?> > I seem to remember popping a Nitros9 Window onto the>> drivewire server> it was very neat. There is a Youtube video>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C-QvdX2bNQ  I cannot find the disk> I>> had made that did than so I was trying to  do it again from the>>> youtube video.  It does not work and I get a error 221 - Module not>>> found.  I do have n5  Is Nine server still supported by drive wire,> I>> herd a rummer that  that It was going to be a separate program.> I> can> use either Nitros9 3.02.9 or 3.03 - 2014 or 3.03 Daily Build>> none of> these have worked.  What modules do I need and what should> be> in my> /dd/sys/inetd  to make this work or is it no longer> supported> by> drive wire?  If it is being developed as a separate> program now> who is> the developer ?  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