[Coco] SHF

Bill Pierce ooogalapasooo at aol.com
Tue Jun 14 22:40:03 EDT 2016

Begin Rant (last one, I promise):

First of all, I have nothing to do with Stephen. He has been blocked entirely from my email for about 2 or 3 years (deleted automatically upon receiving) and the only portions of his posts I see are when they are echoed in someone else's response.

Now that you replied Barry (sorry to see you get into this), I see Stephen's response and laugh as it is just what I expected him to post. Very typical.

As for VCC being open source, yes, the code is open source... But the GitHub VCCE project IS NOT and I and one other have administrative accounts and can control what is done within that project. And Stephen will NEVER post one line of code there if I have anything to do with it. Unless he can prove to me he can actually still write code instead of talk about how he used to write code.

As for any posts on tandycoco.com, I have NEVER deleted any posts of his or anyone else's nor have I ever engaged in any conversation with him there or anywhere else about his posts there. In fact, from the moment Brian gave me administrative privileges up until recently, I was unable to even access my administrator's account due to to some fluke in my browser settings (a fact which has even been documented in the "announcements" section as Brian was trying to help me fix it by changing things in the forum). Recently installing Windows 7 and then 10 solved that (like 3 months ago). The 2nd fact being I don't even log into tandycoco.com but about once a month to see if there are any new messages (his are years old and I read them long ago), read the new ones, then log out. I have personally only posted a few posts there which involved my own software developement and had nothing to do with Stephen's posts.

As for Stephen himself, I do not dislike Stephen, in fact I have a lot of respect for him, but I do dislike his posts as (for the most part) they are usually detrimental to anything and everything being said by anyone else and I tire of it quickly and sometimes to the point I have to say something (as many others have as well). 

And Stephen... as for you "helping" me... all you did was make a vain attempt at something almost non-related and tell me "it had to have been compiled in 68k", then go behind my back and tell someone else I was "beating a dead horse". A dead horse which I not only breathed life into but worked it into one of the most extensive systems ever written for OS9, and did it all in OS9 using the standard C compiler... and without your help!
No need for you to even reply as I will not see it :-)

Sorry if anyone dislikes this post but I've had about enough of Stephen's "They messed up my OS9" attitude. No one touched his disks but him and if his 1989 OS9 is messed up, then he messed it up. He can get every bit of it back from the RTSI archives... (as he has been reminded many times) it's all still there, all of the KD patches including Stephen's preferred buggy version of "Shellplus 2.1". If he doesn't like NitrOS9, then quit trying to use it. There are certain aspects of NitrOS9 I do not care for, so I change them from the source, compile my own repo, and use my own version that fits my needs. 

Rant Done.


Bill Pierce
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-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Nelson <barry.nelson at amobiledevice.com>
To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Tue, Jun 14, 2016 8:25 pm
Subject: [Coco] SHF

Both of you need to take this down a notch or two. Stephen, I use Windows as well as Linux, and Mac and I may add your posts to my kill list. Why? Because I come here to read about CoCo software and hardware, not to read your posts belly aching about how nobody likes you. It has nothing to do with which operating system you chose to use, or not use. Stop belly aching and post something useful and may be I'll change my mind. Bill, if Stephen wants to be associated with the VCC project by contributing code or even talking about the project, it's open source, and it's a free country. If he makes an incorrect statement there are more polite ways to correct it than to say "SHF needs to mind his own business.". Although I must say that Stephen has made it a habit of posting inflammatory posts. I do not want to see a response "justifying" any previous posts. I am posting this to attempt (probably futilely) to preempt a long dialog. Can we please keep any future posts to the subject matter of this mailing list? Stephen, if none else I am willing to change my opinion if you just ignore Bill and proceed to post some useful CoCo info or software. I don't care if it's written to run on Windows, Linux, Mac, or any other OS, even one I don't use.> Stephen H. Fischer SFischer1 at Mindspring.com > Tue Jun 14 17:38:59 EDT 2016> Do you understand the term "DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT" BILL!> > You are not GOD and your bitter hatred of me is totally misplaced and ON YOUR PART ONLY. Remember the help I gave you at the beginning, I went out of the way to help you. You have gone in a different directions than most CoCo people and we all are loosing.> > And your skills as a programmer may be great but that does give you the right to delete my posts on http://www.tandycoco.com/forum/ which have been done despite the owner saying that has not happened!> > Get a life! I admit my mistakes, when are you going to. I have received part of the source code for VCC and understand how Windows programs work and emulators in general. You are Johnny come lately to the CoCo world, I was on Delphi and moved to Bit.Listserv.CoCo and have been on this list from the beginning.> > Stephen H. Fischer >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bill Pierce via Coco" <coco at maltedmedia.com>>> To: <coco at maltedmedia.com>>> Cc: "Bill Pierce" <ooogalapasooo at aol.com>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 7:37 AM>> Subject: Re: [Coco] VCC on Mac>> >> >> > First, Stephen Fisher is not, nor ever will be associated with the VCC project. He has NO knowledge of what is going on and needs to stay out of my conversations.>> > NO... There is NO "VB6" code ANYWHERE in VCC,.... again, SHF needs to mind his own business. (For the newbies here, it's a long story with SHF).-- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco

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