[Coco] Just another peek...

S Klammer sklammer at gmail.com
Fri Oct 9 21:03:05 EDT 2015


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Shain
On Oct 9, 2015 8:59 PM, "S Klammer" <sklammer at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would agree with you Mark.  It is my understanding that most flash
> memory has a finite number of writes... wouldn't this low level
> partioning/sector be detrimental and bypass and internal safeguards of the
> memory device?
>
> If I was doing this, and I'm not technically able to, I'd look at using
> something which would emulate FD/HDD access to a file (DSK, VHD) on the
> memory device... aka the CocoSDC.  This would permit ease of backup,
> maintenance of those (multiple) images on a non-Coco device, without the
> need for 'extra' drivers.  Darren's additions to DEB allow DEB to
> view/change which image is applied to which floppy drive being emulated...
> nothing else is changed from the Coco's viewpoint.
>
> (I'm not saying to stop what work is being done with the CocoFPGA, just
> that I might consider a different course)
>
> Shain
> On Oct 9, 2015 8:39 PM, "Mark McDougall" <msmcdoug at iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>> On 10/10/2015 7:32 AM, Dave Philipsen wrote:
>>
>> My guess is that we'll have the DE1 booting from the SD card in fairly
>>> short order but it could be some months as I have not found any other
>>> volunteers as of yet to help on the coding and my time is a little
>>> stretched right now.
>>>
>>
>> My $0.02 worth...
>>
>> You're really going about this ass-backwards and creating more mess and
>> confusion along the way. We don't NEED more media support in software, it's
>> only going to muddy the already muddy waters.
>>
>> You should be looking at making the FPGA do the heavy lifting via
>> hardware emulation. My Coco 1/2 implements the 'standard' Cloud9 IDE
>> interface via the opencores OCIDE controller core. That interfaces directly
>> to a CF card, for example. I've got read support working on the SD card -
>> not via any convoluted driver quasi hardware setup - but via a back-end
>> interface that make the SD card look/act like disk media on the back end of
>> an IDE controller. Not 1 byte of additional software/ROM required.
>>
>> The coco is already confusing with FD-50X, Super/GlensideIDE, Drivewire
>> and CocoSDC hardware. Add DECB, (Nitr)OS9, HDBOS and Drivewire software,
>> and it's becoming unmanageable. Now you want to add SD card support in
>> software as well, across DECB and NitrOS9? That's just nuts!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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>> |              Mark McDougall              | "Electrical Engineers do it
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