[Coco] Farewell CoColist

[Ken Flanagan]

Nick, please don't leave the list (at least not permanently (maybe take a
break). Just ignore Al.

Al, you say that Nick needs to grow up, yet you're coming across as a
bully.
On Feb 27, 2015 9:29 PM, "Nick Marentes" <nickma2 at optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> I am  so disinterested in your response below that I'm not going to waste
> my time reading it.
>
> Call me what you will but I've got a string of e-mails here that say that
> you were out of line and have been for some time.
>
> I actually would have thought that someone of your age and declining
> health would have been more sincere and understanding to others, even if
> they have a different view from yours.
>
> I myself have bounced back from a crippling neurological disease and just
> last year I had a battle with cancer that threatened to end my life in 2
> years. I know exactly what your situation is (more than you know!) and
> resilience has pulled me through both ordeals.
>
> Coming close to death as I have wakes one up on the importance of life and
> making the most of it while you can. There is no value in stepping on
> people's toes and responding to everything in a critical and retaliatery
> fashion in order to bring them down.
>
> People know me for being a creative type, an 'out-of-the-box' thinker and
> I've always tried to inspire others to make the best of their life and the
> things they do.
>
> You've made several poor observations and innacurate conclusions but I
> think most people here have recognized this and have a clear understanding
> of your personality type. You've come to conclusions without really fully
> understanding the intentions of the other and then exagerated to make them
> appear worst.
>
> So the list is all yours and I will persue my CoCo interests via differnt
> channels where free speech and fresh ideas are openly accepted. I doubt the
> people here want to see an ongoing clash of personalities.
>
> Game Over.
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> On 28/02/2015 1:28 PM, Al Hartman wrote:
>
>> And some people take things personally they ought not to, and don't let
>> things lie.
>>
>> There was no need to poke the list by mentioning that you wanted the
>> CocoSDC to have a mezzanine connector, and it was decided by the developer
>> not to do it.
>>
>> That was small and petty.
>>
>> When do YOU take responsibility for your own actions, and how you act as
>> if YOU know better than everybody else what should be done?
>>
>> And this whole "taking my toys and going home" bit by taking your website
>> down is petty, childish, and drama queenish. It has been mentioned by a
>> couple on the list, if you haven't missed it. I don't feel responsible at
>> all.
>>
>> Grow up Nick!
>>
>> You didn't get your way, yet you keep poking and insisting over and over.
>> Then creating this false thing with me. And now, you won't let it rest and
>> are continuing to poke me and make false accusations at me. I don't take
>> others down. I am VERY supportive.
>>
>> But, you can't let things lie. You can't take "no." for an answer. You
>> have to try to get your way by being dramatic, or whining, or poking, or
>> playing the victim.
>>
>> Look in the mirror Nick.
>>
>> Be a grown up. Deal with the multi-pak clone however it gets made, IF it
>> ever gets made, put your site back up, and develop your game if and when
>> you feel like it.
>>
>> But, don't pretend it's a nothing thing with me you turned into a
>> molehill so you could pretend to be the victim here that caused you to take
>> it down.
>>
>> Perhaps you don't get that your display of drama makes it less likely
>> that an MPI clone will ever get made. That your reaction to being told "no,
>> that's not what can happen at this stage" is what creates the bad stuff on
>> the list.
>>
>> Do you remember at all the last big fight over the Coco 4 that Steve
>> Bjork was working on? He quit the Coco scene because people who weren't
>> building it were trying to tell him what it should have, and how it should
>> be, but weren't willing to do the work to create it themselves. I wanted
>> that Coco 4. I want this MPI Clone. And, I was trying to stop the same
>> thing from happening again, where we get so bogged down in trying to make
>> the tail wag the dog, that the developer quits thinking he can't satisfy
>> anyone, and we end up with nothing. But, you wouldn't get it. you wouldn't
>> back down, and just let things happen.
>>
>> Once they get a prototype working, they might consider adding things to
>> it. But, let them do that first...
>>
>> Let them get the basic functionality working, and see what it will cost
>> to make, how much power is left over in the power supply, and how much
>> bigger they can make the board with the supplier they choose, etc....
>>
>> You wouldn't stop until you got your way. And then you went off and threw
>> a tantrum. Stop it already!
>>
>> I didn't post this to the list, because I want this not to keep
>> escalating as you obviously want it to, so you can feel like the poor
>> put-upon victim.
>>
>> Stop it already. It's people like you who poison the list, not people
>> like me.
>>
>> I ask for something, and if I don't get it. I let it drop. I don't poke.
>> I don't whine. I don't take my toys and leave to try to manipulate people.
>>
>> That's just wrong.
>>
>> -[ Al ]-
>>
>>
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