[Coco] Farewell CoColist

Nick Marentes nickma2 at optusnet.com.au
Sat Feb 28 00:28:34 EST 2015


I am  so disinterested in your response below that I'm not going to 
waste my time reading it.

Call me what you will but I've got a string of e-mails here that say 
that you were out of line and have been for some time.

I actually would have thought that someone of your age and declining 
health would have been more sincere and understanding to others, even if 
they have a different view from yours.

I myself have bounced back from a crippling neurological disease and 
just last year I had a battle with cancer that threatened to end my life 
in 2 years. I know exactly what your situation is (more than you know!) 
and resilience has pulled me through both ordeals.

Coming close to death as I have wakes one up on the importance of life 
and making the most of it while you can. There is no value in stepping 
on people's toes and responding to everything in a critical and 
retaliatery fashion in order to bring them down.

People know me for being a creative type, an 'out-of-the-box' thinker 
and I've always tried to inspire others to make the best of their life 
and the things they do.

You've made several poor observations and innacurate conclusions but I 
think most people here have recognized this and have a clear 
understanding of your personality type. You've come to conclusions 
without really fully understanding the intentions of the other and then 
exagerated to make them appear worst.

So the list is all yours and I will persue my CoCo interests via 
differnt channels where free speech and fresh ideas are openly accepted. 
I doubt the people here want to see an ongoing clash of personalities.

Game Over.

Nick



On 28/02/2015 1:28 PM, Al Hartman wrote:
> And some people take things personally they ought not to, and don't 
> let things lie.
>
> There was no need to poke the list by mentioning that you wanted the 
> CocoSDC to have a mezzanine connector, and it was decided by the 
> developer not to do it.
>
> That was small and petty.
>
> When do YOU take responsibility for your own actions, and how you act 
> as if YOU know better than everybody else what should be done?
>
> And this whole "taking my toys and going home" bit by taking your 
> website down is petty, childish, and drama queenish. It has been 
> mentioned by a couple on the list, if you haven't missed it. I don't 
> feel responsible at all.
>
> Grow up Nick!
>
> You didn't get your way, yet you keep poking and insisting over and 
> over. Then creating this false thing with me. And now, you won't let 
> it rest and are continuing to poke me and make false accusations at 
> me. I don't take others down. I am VERY supportive.
>
> But, you can't let things lie. You can't take "no." for an answer. You 
> have to try to get your way by being dramatic, or whining, or poking, 
> or playing the victim.
>
> Look in the mirror Nick.
>
> Be a grown up. Deal with the multi-pak clone however it gets made, IF 
> it ever gets made, put your site back up, and develop your game if and 
> when you feel like it.
>
> But, don't pretend it's a nothing thing with me you turned into a 
> molehill so you could pretend to be the victim here that caused you to 
> take it down.
>
> Perhaps you don't get that your display of drama makes it less likely 
> that an MPI clone will ever get made. That your reaction to being told 
> "no, that's not what can happen at this stage" is what creates the bad 
> stuff on the list.
>
> Do you remember at all the last big fight over the Coco 4 that Steve 
> Bjork was working on? He quit the Coco scene because people who 
> weren't building it were trying to tell him what it should have, and 
> how it should be, but weren't willing to do the work to create it 
> themselves. I wanted that Coco 4. I want this MPI Clone. And, I was 
> trying to stop the same thing from happening again, where we get so 
> bogged down in trying to make the tail wag the dog, that the developer 
> quits thinking he can't satisfy anyone, and we end up with nothing. 
> But, you wouldn't get it. you wouldn't back down, and just let things 
> happen.
>
> Once they get a prototype working, they might consider adding things 
> to it. But, let them do that first...
>
> Let them get the basic functionality working, and see what it will 
> cost to make, how much power is left over in the power supply, and how 
> much bigger they can make the board with the supplier they choose, 
> etc....
>
> You wouldn't stop until you got your way. And then you went off and 
> threw a tantrum. Stop it already!
>
> I didn't post this to the list, because I want this not to keep 
> escalating as you obviously want it to, so you can feel like the poor 
> put-upon victim.
>
> Stop it already. It's people like you who poison the list, not people 
> like me.
>
> I ask for something, and if I don't get it. I let it drop. I don't 
> poke. I don't whine. I don't take my toys and leave to try to 
> manipulate people.
>
> That's just wrong.
>
> -[ Al ]-
>



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