[Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images

Tue Oct 28 20:05:56 EDT 2014

Hi Bill,
yes, that image file was from a working disk and booted just fine.

Regards, Bob Devries
Dalby, QLD, Australia

On 29/10/2014 7:11 AM, Bill Nobel wrote:
> Hey Bob,  was yours a complete boot?  I have downloaded it but haven’t tried it yet.  The one I got from Kip almost completes boot but not quite.  I am thinking he has a different clock in his setup.  I am going to take this on to disassemble it as I have done to the original Level 2 code to get Nitros9 working the first time.
>
> Bill Nobel
>
>> On Oct 27, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kip,
>>
>> I have a file in my dropbox which is named os9L3.os9. I have checked it (again) and it is what I believe to be Alan DeKok's L3. I say that because it has files like NitrOS9, _end in the OS9Boot file.
>>
>> Check it out here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9ia3b1zi1zvzgo/OS9L3.os9?dl=0
>>
>> I may have the source to the version of cc3Go you are referring to. I'll have to have a look for it.
>> I don't think I ever had sources for the version of L3 which I have in my dropbox.
>>
>> Regards, Bob Devries
>> Dalby, QLD, Australia
>>
>> On 28/10/2014 12:04 PM, Kip Koon wrote:
>>> Hi Bob!
>>> I did an ident and it was quite revealing.  Do you have full copies of this
>>> version along with source code?  I'd like to see all of it if possible.  I
>>> saw an ACIA module and on the surface it looks like the console boot device
>>> was an RS-232 port and it booted off H0.  I'd like to see that setup.  Does
>>> any of that development still exist?  Do you know why the file I put in
>>> dropbox is named OS9L3.os9 and not OS9l2.os9?
>>>
>>> Kip Koon
>>> computerdoc at sc.rr.com
>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Bob Devries
>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:54 PM
>>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images
>>>
>>> Hi Kip,
>>>
>>> at one time, Don Berrie and I put together a version of CC3Go which was
>>> programmed to read a config.sys style file and use that for the startup
>>> shell. If you find a reference to /dd/sys/config.os9 in that cc3go, then
>>> that's it.
>>>
>>> As to it being L3 or not, you would need to do an IDENT of the OS9Boot file.
>>> That will reveal much.
>>>
>>> Regards, Bob Devries
>>> Dalby, QLD, Australia
>>>
>>> On 28/10/2014 11:39 AM, Kip Koon wrote:
>>>> Hi Guys!
>>>> This is what cc3go module has as its internal text.
>>>> Copyright Bob Devries & Don Berrie
>>>> OS-9 LEVEL TWO VR. 02.00.01 COPYRIGHT 1986 MICROWARE SYSTEMS
>>>> CORPORATION ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Bill, you are right.  This is really
>>>> OS-9 L2 v2.0.1! Interesting they would rename it L3.  Maybe this is an
>>>> interim L3 development version and they just did not update cc3go yet.
>>>> That's my speculation of course.
>>>> Running "ded cc3go" has also shown me that it is programmed to boot H0.
>>>> That's probably the reason why it is not booting.
>>>> Now to read the rest of this thread and see what you guys are up too.
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Kip Koon
>>>> computerdoc at sc.rr.com
>>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Kip Koon
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 8:52 PM
>>>> To: 'Bill Pierce'; 'CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images
>>>>
>>>> Hi Guys!
>>>> Sorry for being offline.  I've been a bit under the weather.  Here is
>>>> a link to the OS-9 L3 disk image I downloaded from Alan Dekok's web site.
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/izktotl4934qut9/OS9L3.os9?dl=0
>>>> Could you tell me what else would be needed to run this or to update
>>>> the
>>>> NitrOS-9 Repo?
>>>>
>>>> Kip Koon
>>>> computerdoc at sc.rr.com
>>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>>>> Pierce via Coco
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 5:01 PM
>>>> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tormod, I sent you a private email concerning Nitros9 level 3
>>>> yesterday. I think it got screwed in the process so I'll send it again.
>>>> And yes, there was a working Level 3 at one point, but Alan took it
>>>> with him when he left us. Unless Kip had a copy from Alan's old
>>>> website, I don't see how he could've run it. It was only available for
>>> Nitros9 L2 v1.2.2.
>>>> The level 3 that Alan was working on was based on code from Nitros9 L2
>>>> v1.22 (yes, that old), which was still being sold by Northern Exposure
>>>> at the time. They at one point announced they "may" provide the Level
>>>> 3 upgrade if enough people showed interest. I don't think they ever
>>> actually released it.
>>>> Alan did have it available on his website later.
>>>>       The Level 3 code in the repo is missing 4 important files and WILL NOT
>>>> run without them.
>>>> These files are "IOMan.L3", "OS9P1.L3" (now named Krn), "OS9p2.L3"
>>>> (now named KrnP2), and "Clock.L3" (now split into 2 modules).
>>>> These files have gone through many changes since Nitros9 l2 v1.22 and
>>>> the original L3 files will have to be disassembled and the newer
>>>> modules reworked to do what these modules intended for L3.
>>>> Again... Level 3 WILL NOT WORK without these modules, and I'm NOT
>>>> referring to the current build of these modules as Alan did special
>>>> versions of each one. They were not the same modules as in Nitros9 l2
>>> v1.2.2.
>>>>       I think Kip may have been running a release of Nitros9 L2 v3.0.0 as
>>>> I've seen it in several archives labeled as "L3" which is incorrect.
>>>> It's just L2 v3.0.0,
>>>>    
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>>>>       -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Tormod Volden <lists.tormod at gmail.com>
>>>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>>> Sent: Thu, Oct 23, 2014 4:32 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Kip Koon wrote:
>>>>> Hi Tormod!
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any plans for reviving the NitrOS-9 Level-3 Code?
>>>> Hi Kip!
>>>>
>>>> I believe Gene has such plans :)
>>>>
>>>> I don't know of anyone else. Boisy put this stuff in the repo some
>>>> years ago, but I think the original level3 work from Alan DeKok is decades
>>> old.
>>>> Other than that the only plans that I know anyone has or had for
>>>> NitrOS-9 is here: http://sourceforge.net/p/nitros9/feature-requests/
>>>>
>>>> Personally I would like to see it ported to more systems. There is a
>>>> crowd of 6809 lovers outside the CoCo/Dragon scene, which I am sure
>>>> you have seen for instance on the N8VEM list. Getting them involved
>>>> and using NitrOS-9 as a unifying base would be great. NitrOS-9 offers
>>>> the a well defined API to write programs that can run on a CoCo or a
>>> homebrew 6809 system.
>>>> Generally I think we need more new software running on NitrOS-9, more
>>>> than we need new features in NitrOS-9. But I am not so much into the
>>>> use of
>>>> NitrOS-9 so what do I know. Of course a lot of people think the
>>>> operating system itself is more interesting to develop than programs
>>>> for it. And I could fit in there, I guess :)
>>>>
>>>>> How do I put in my own changes into my local copy of the NitrOS-9
>>>>> Repository without the Build process removing said changes every time
>>>>> I try to assemble the source code and make the disks?  I have some
>>>>> ideas I want to play with including cleaning up some scripts, adding
>>>>> other scripts that I think are needed or at least would be
>>>>> interesting and correcting at least one error in a module.
>>>> You can make your own local branch. See "hg help branch" for the short
>>>> story, but read the mercurial documentation and tutorials for better
>>>> explanations. I posted some of these here:
>>>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.tandy.coco/75439
>>>>
>>>>> Another reason why I'm asking is I have a friend named Bas De Jong
>>>>> who is running a homebrew 68020 VME system he made using wirewrap
>>>>> methods that runs
>>>>> OS-9 68K 2.3 and he wants to add Windowing capabilities to His OS-9
>>>>> Operating system.
>>>>>
>>>>> He asked me some questions about the windowing system in NitrOS-9 and
>>>>> I told him as far as I know the default distro disks have no built-in
>>>>> GUI.  Then I remembered the Multivue disks.  I tried the Multivue
>>>>> 6309 DW and Multivue
>>>>> 6809 DW disks in Drivewire with VCC 1.43Beta and neither of them
>>>>> booted.  I also tried to boot the Multivue 6309 and Multivue 6809
>>>>> disks in VCC Drive 0 with the Drive off Basic command and neither of
>>>>> these booted.  If I remember correctly,  Multivue is the GUI
>>>>> application, but I cannot check it out to get copies of the screen
>>>>> for
>>>> Bas.
>>>>> Are the Multivue disks broken or did I make a mistake in my
>>>>> configuration in Drivewire and/or VCC?
>>>> I don't know. Maybe Bill Pierce knows, since he's the most heavy user
>>>> of
>>>> NitrOS-9 GUI systems that I know of.
>>>>
>>>>> I tested a version of OS-9 Level 3 once quite a while back and it
>>>>> seemed to work fine, but I didn't have a Coco mouse then so I did not
>>>>> pursue it any further.  Now that I have VCC 1.43beta I'm going to
>>>>> pull it out again and see if it still boots.  Any help would be most
>>>>> appreciated.  Thanks in advance.  Take care my friends.
>>>> So there was a OS-9 Level 3? Interesting. Maybe someone can pitch in
>>>> with some history and background. I have considered it more like
>>>> vaporware, from reading the NitrOS-9 FAQ.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Tormod
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