[Coco] MShell Update - Even Newer Version
Kip Koon
computerdoc at sc.rr.com
Tue Nov 18 23:11:42 EST 2014
Hi Bill!
I like where you are going with Mshell! What else do you have planned? Inquiring minds what to know - namely MINE! :) Take care my friend.
Kip Koon
computerdoc at sc.rr.com
http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
-----Original Message-----
From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Bill Pierce via Coco
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 5:56 PM
To: coco at maltedmedia.com
Subject: Re: [Coco] MShell Update - Even Newer Version
Robert, I don't quite get what you're asking.
Nick was having problems running MShell from an 80trk repo disk with the MShell files copied to it. With the NITROS9 (boot modules dir) directory on an 80trk disk, there is not much room. Nick, being an OS9 newbie, just copied the files to the disk and didn't realize that 2 of the files didn't make it because the disk was full.
After I deleted the NITROS9 dir to make room, and recopied the MShell files, it ran fine. But one BIG directory read would crash that due to no disk space to write the temp file during the dir read. The PC dir read uses this and PC dirs can be HUGE when you factor in long filenames and lots of them.
The safe thing is to install MShell on an HD/VHD.
I wouldn't advise anyone to use MShell from floppy unless they ONLY use floppies and have no plans to read PC directories or copy PC files.
MShell was intended as a file manager in the sense of keeping a hard drive system "managable" and to have the ability to move files to and from OS9, RSDOS and the DW4 server's host dirves.
Not to mention, this is just the first module set. There's more to come. Once this thing grows as large as I hope it does, just the MShell files alone would not even fit on an 80trk 720k disk :-)
Bill Pierce
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Gault <robert.gault at att.net>
To: Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com>; CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 18, 2014 5:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco] MShell Update - Even Newer Version
Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
>
>
> Nick, I am posting my reply on the list for anyone else trying the
> same
thing...
> I got your disk and your problem perplexed me for a few minutes.
> After
sticking the disk in drive 0 of Vcc and booting up, i type mshell& (use the &, you'll understand later), and.....
> It hung up on the title.
> I view the bootfile.... all is in place... (no dw4 of course) I dir
> the cmds and all the mshell files are there...
> I try again, same result.
> I copy those files from my install disk to my vhd, reboot to my boot,
> run
mshell all works fine. Not an mshell problem...
> Then I try a small fix that I thought may help in one startup file
> went to
save it to your disk.....
> "DISK FULL"
>
>
><snip>
Bill,
Do you think mshell would work on an 80-track double sided 3.5" disk? Few of us have that as a /D0 on a Coco system as you would need tricks with the cable.
Still you could set up a boot disk to boot from /D1 with /D1 as a /DD.
Robert
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