[Coco] 2 wasted cpus?

Thu Mar 7 21:13:42 EST 2013

in a fast check the pins 7 and 8 are connected. but 7 is VCC so is pretty
much connected to elsewhere like GND right, or wrong ?

I found two pin on other side like 35-34, 36-37 or 37-38 dont remember that
are connected too.

tested some pins from cpu till cartridge port like halt, reset and they
have continuity.

what pins could be fatal for the 6809 in case they have a solder bridge ?

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:46 PM, camillus Blockx <camillus.b.58 at gmail.com>wrote:

> yes sorry i ment piggy back style, but that looked ovious no...lol
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Your temp fix has a big hole in it...
> >  You say "If it is soldered..."
> >   and then you say  "press it down so it sits snug in the socket..."
> >
> > If it is soldered... there is no socket.
> > Bill P
> >
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> > Bill Pierce
> > ooogalapasooo at aol.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: camillus Blockx <camillus.b.58 at gmail.com>
> > To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> > Sent: Thu, Mar 7, 2013 5:20 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Coco] 2 wasted cpus?
> >
> >
> > Good to hear you have a coco 3, now you can test your cpu's  in that
> coco,
> > that is if the cpu is not soldered in place.
> > If it is soldered in place there is still a way to test, rather awkward
> but
> > doable.
> >
> > Attache an 1 kohm resistor ( brown black red ) on a piece of wire like
> > this:
> >
> > ------------------------------|--------------------[
> >     ]--------------------
> > wire +- 12 inch               resistor lead      1 K Ohm R
> resistor
> > lead
> >
> > Do this 2 x
> >
> > Take one of the cpu's you bought and bend carefully pin40 up, so it makes
> > no contact withe lower cpu.
> > Place the cpu on top of the cpu in the coco 3, and press it downso it
> sits
> > snug into the socket together with the original cpu. Now solder one of
> the
> > earlier made wire and resistor to an ground lever, ( + side of nearby
> > capacitor) and attach the resistor side to pin 40 on the BOTTOM cpu. This
> >  will HALT the bottom cpu so it will not effect the test)
> >
> > Now the other wire you connect to a nearby - side of a capacitor and the
> > resistor side to the upper cpu pin 40,
> >
> > - from capacitor or supply
> > -----------------------------------wire-----------------------res 1k
> > ------------------- pin 40 cpu on bottom
> > +from capacitor or supply
> > -----------------------------------wire-----------------------res 1k
> > ------------------- pin 40 cpu on upper
> >
> > Do not connect any pin directly to any supply connection ALWAYS use
> > resistor ( at least 1Kohm )
> >
> > Apply power and see if you get a working image, try reset if not from the
> > first try. Possible you need to press a bit on the upper cpu to make
> shure
> > it makes good contact. If you have good screen cpu is OK, else needs more
> > testing.
> >
> > After power down do the same with the second cpu
> >
> > Hope this makes sence to you
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > If you decide to trow the board away,i will take it and pay for Shipping
> >
> > thnx
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Luis Antoniosi (CoCoDemus) <
> > retrocanada76 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > i applied only to one side, it's is very difficult to put solder on
> top,
> > > you can't reach with solder tip, and the socket's round metal legs
> covers
> > > the solder points. I use a socket like these:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://image.made-in-china.com/43f34j00uBeapAfrfwqm/IC-Socket-Machined-Pin-0110-.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > > But I tested the traces from top and bottom and all seem to have
> > continuity
> > > until their components or vias.
> > >
> > > sending the board to you probably would cost more than buying anoter
> > coco2
> > > on ebay. I already have a coco3, I just want to fix my coco2b. Thanxs
> for
> > > the help.
> > >
> > > Felipe.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM, camillus Blockx <
> > camillus.b.58 at gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > The best way to know if your cpu's are busted is to put them in an
> > other
> >
> > > > coco and test it.
> > > >
> > > > Also worth to mention is when you placed the machiened socket did you
> > > > solder it on both sides?
> > > > Go with a thin solderwire and add a little more solder tobottom and
> top
> > > > side on the pins of the cpusocket.
> > > > This makes sure that plated thrue holes are making goodcontact. Use
> > also
> > > a
> > > > fine solderpoint for this.
> > > >
> > > > good luck
> > > >
> > > > ( I would like to help you, but I do not know if you live close to
> > > Indiana,
> > > > Valparaiso area )
> > > > You can buy a coco 3 128k for $75+ S/H, so don't know if you want to
> > send
> > > > your board to me, I test and if damaged try to repair it, and send it
> > > back
> > > > to you. The cost would only be Shipping and parts, if needed.
> > > >
> > > > Just let me know ok
> > > >
> > > > camillus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > It's also conceivable that you have a cold solder joint, depending
> on
> > > > > how exactly you tested continuity.  (Another possibility is a
> cracked
> > > > > or damaged trace on the motherboard.)  Try testing the continuity
> > > > > between each pin and someplace the trace beneath it goes to.  If
> you
> > > > > just tested continuity between the pin and the glob of solder
> beneath
> > > > > it, a cold solder joint might not be detected.  A close examination
> > > > > under a magnifying glass might turn up a problem more quickly.  So
> > > > > might reheating all the connections to see if the problem goes
> away.
> > > > >
> > > > > Art
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Retro Canada <
> > retrocanada76 at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > just got my 2 mc68b09e cpus from jameco. removed the defective
> cpu
> > > from
> > > > > my coco2, installed a machined socket but when i test both cpus
> all i
> > > get
> > > > > is garbled screeen. with vdg checkerboard and at signs. the same
> if i
> > > > > remove and turn it on without the cpu.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > i checked the continuity on all pins seems fine. cpu is receiving
> > 5v
> > > > and
> > > > > making some heat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > so did i get 2 busted  cpus?
> > > > > >
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