[Coco] cowin vs cogrf question

Bill Pierce ooogalapasooo at aol.com
Wed Oct 17 18:10:24 EDT 2012 

It seems the mouse is missing only in Ed, so I assume Ed is using some MV functions as the arrow keys don't work either. I tried Ultimuse, which doesn't require MV and the mouse works fine. The arrow keys are woking in my Sound Chaser. Since Ed is my editor of choice at the moment, I'll probably go back to cowin. 

Also, I noticed on a fresh boot, on 2 different installations of VCC, both boots are reporting $EC blocks of mem, the one with cogrf, has only 50 modules in it's boot. The one with cowin has 57 modules in it's boot. This makes the cowin boot using less memory? Or jus coincidence that the modules fell in place on the right boundries?
Something else I notice, that I hadn't noticed before. The cowin boot doesn't have sysgo in memory. The cogrf boot does. The cowin boot is a Boisy/Becker boot, the other is pretty much a standard Emu boot.
Does the Boisy/Beckker boot not use sysgo?

Also, VCC gives the option of setting the Coco to 8 megs of memory. According to mfree NitrOS9 only sees 2 meg. Is this just a limit of mfree or does Nitro need something patched to use the 8 meg.

Bill P

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-----Original Message-----
From: Retro Canada <retrocanada76 at gmail.com>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 17, 2012 5:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco] cowin vs cogrf question


shouldn't the mouse be driven by the joydrv_6551m ? I don't have one....yet!

Need to find one to buy as well as a high-res joystick adapter.


On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, I switched a boot on a VHD from Cowin to CoGrf. I've tried several 
programs and everything seemed fine. I now have one question. Does it support 
the mouse? I ran "Ed' and Ed is mouse driven. The mouse didn't activate. How do 
I turn the mouse back on or is that a part of Cowin?
>
> Bill P
>
> Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
> Bill Pierce
> ooogalapasooo at aol.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Retro Canada <retrocanada76 at gmail.com>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 17, 2012 4:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] cowin vs cogrf question
>
>
> I do it. I write on my /IH drive. But you need to use os9gen with -S
> option, otherwise you are going to have a Disk Id Change error.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
>> On Wednesday 17 October 2012 16:37:58 Gene Heskett did opine:
>>
>>> On Wednesday 17 October 2012 15:19:23 Retro Canada did opine:
>>> > Well not in my build using superIDE drivers. Didn't try diskette or
>>> > something else. Whenever I used coWin and coVDG it didn't boot.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com>
>> wrote:
>>> > > On Wednesday 17 October 2012 14:44:43 Retro Canada did opine:
>>> > >> I recently made a lot of level 2 boots for superIDE. It was on
>>> > >> trial and error as usual.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> With CoGRF on level 2 you get all W to W15 windows 80/40 columns
>>> > >> but you can't run multivue.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> To get the V1 to V4 32 columns you need CoVDG.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> To run multivue you need CoWIN. But CoWIN cannot coexists with
>>> > >> CoVDG or you get a memory overflow.
>>> > >
>>> > > Humm, they can't co-exist?  Maybe thats where some of my memory is
>>> > > going.
>>> > >
>>> > > {t2|08}/DD/NITROS9/dw3install/6309L2/MODULES/SCF:mdir
>>> > >
>>> > >    Module Directory at 14:34:01
>>> > >
>>> > > REL         Boot        Krn         KrnP2       KrnP3       IOMan
>>> > > Init        RBF         rbdw3       dw3         X0          X1
>>> > > RBSuper     lltc3       DD          S1          SH          rb1773
>>> > > D0          D1          D2          SCF         VTIO        KeyDrv
>>> > > SndDrv      JoyDrv      CoWin       CoVDG       sc6551      Term
>>> > > W           W1          W2          W3          W4          W7
>>> > > scdwn       N           N1          N2          N3          N4
>>> > > N5          N6          N7          MIDI        t2          scdwp
>>> > > p           PipeMan     Piper       Pipe        Clock       Clock2
>>> > > GrfDrv      Shell       Date        DeIniz      Echo        Iniz
>>> > > Link        Load        Save        Unlink      inetd       MDir
>>> > >
>>> > > And this is from the /t2 screen of my default dw enabled boot
>>> > > floppy.
>>>
>>> A PS of sorts, I just rebuilt it without CoWin.  Boots just fine. AND
>>> smap is a heck of a lot happier, from 4k free to 9k free, 36 'pages'
>>> now.  Maybe I can format a floppy?  ;-)
>>>
>> :(  No.  The HD boot I was using for these builds left me with 39 pages, 9k
>> according to smap.  I installed this on on the hd, boots fine, but that 36
>> pages is not enough to allow format to run w/o crashing.  This recovery
>> could be fun, I don't know that I have a floppy boot that is hd aware.
>> OTOH. there is nothing to stop me from writing my own mb script for /sh
>> that skips the format in favor of just deleting the file os9boot and making
>> a new one with os9gen.
>>
>>> In fact, since I have /sh pointing at the hard drive boot location, and
>>> can change that to an adjacent vdisk with dmode stp=82 rather easily
>>> just for testing, I am tempted to replace the boottracks
>>> boot_rb1778_6ms module with the boot_tc3 module in mb.dw3 and fire that
>>> script off to do a mb on /d0 and back it up to /sh.  Then note for
>>> recovery and add 1260 decimal sectors to DD.BT in LSN0 of /dd and
>>> reboot.  If that works, then do it again to the default /sh, restore
>>> DD.BT and laugh all the way to the fridge. ;-)  We'll see. I don't care
>>> for painting myself into a corner though.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Gene
>>
>>
>> Cheers, Gene
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