[Coco] Motorola Parts Missing in ExpressPCB

[Frank Pittel]

Take a look at the diptrace software. Far more reasonably priced than eagle!!

Frank


On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 08:52:31AM -0400, Louis Ciotti wrote:
> Yea it will be an uphill battle I think.  But really there are not
> many alternatives for the hobbiest out there that have a full feature
> set.
> 
> I would try Eagle, but I don't like the "you cannot sell anything you
> make from this" restriction.  Will I ever sell a PCB design I make...
> probably not, but hey you never know and $800+ for a just in case is
> waaayyy too steep.
> 
> I personally like the OrCAD suite that used its own PCBEditor rather
> than the allegro stuff.  For simple designs it was quick.
> 
> I really wish companies would opensource some of their older versions,
> and offer pay as you go support, or at least deep discount the older
> versions.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:02 PM,  <jdaggett at gate.net> wrote:
> > Louis
> >
> > good luck on the learning curve on KiCad. After several hourson the scematic entry I totally
> > removed it.
> >
> > I guess I am still partial to the old Cadence Software. Concept for schematic entry and
> > Allegro for layout. We also had the Spectra router. That was the best that I have ever used.
> > You could manual or auto route with Spectra and it was so nice.
> >
> > Eagle is okay. Once you get to know it. In after thought, just about any schematic entry/pcb
> > layout tool can be learned and become quite usable. Maybe the very old Cad4X would be an
> > exception to that. Then also some of Mentor Graphics early programs were not much better
> > than Cad4X.
> >
> > enough of my rants.
> >
> > james
> >
> > On 14 Aug 2012 at 10:24, Louis Ciotti wrote:
> >
> >> I have used ExpressPCB, PCB123, OrCAD, and I am now learning KiCAD.
> >>
> >> I used OrCAD for work, and it is $$ for a hobbiest usage.  ExpressPCB is
> >> nice, and simple to learn, but it has its limitations, one being you have
> >> to order from them and no autorouter.  They will sell you the Gerber files
> >> after you buy at least one run from them.  PCB123 is more powerful and has
> >> an autorouter, but the schematic capture program can be painful, but I
> >> have not used it in at least 3 years, so it may have improved.  Again with
> >> PCB123 you have to order from them.  I am just now learning KiCAD, and it
> >> is pretty powerful, but it has a learning curve.  Have not gotten into
> >> doing a layout with it yet, but it does have a large user base with plenty
> >> of libraries.  I ahve a simple design I am going to run through batchpcb
> >> and see how that goes.  For the cost if the results are OK, it is worth
> >> the wait.
> >>
> >> I am sure others have different thoughts.
> >
> >
> >
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