[Coco] Software offer and Drive Pak solution

[Aaron Wolfe]

On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 11:01 AM, gene heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, September 18, 2010 10:41:09 am Andrew did opine:
>
>> I'm just going to throw my two cents on this fire, so ignore where
>> appropriate.
>>
>> First off, I want to say thanks to Roger, Cloud-9, and anybody else who
>> has helped to keep the CoCo alive for far longer than I ever expected; I
>> started out with my CoCo 2 when I was 10 years old; here I am 27 years
>> later, somehow. I may not have my CoCo "up and running" at this moment,
>> but someday I'll bring it back on-line again.
>>
>> Now, Roger, I know in the past I have asked you about porting the
>> Rainbow IDE to Linux, etc - I won't rehash that with Phoenix. While it
>> would've been nice to see something done in a more cross-platform manner
>> (wxWindows/wxWidgets and GCC, perhaps? Or Java?), it is what it is, and
>> your choice, ultimately.
>>
>> What I don't want to see, though, is a future date where, should
>> development on these platforms need or want to be done, it can't because
>> the software only runs on a version of Windows that is no longer
>> supported, and may not even run on the hardware of that future date
>> (because perhaps the hardware isn't even based on 80x86). Of course,
>> maybe I am worrying for nothing; perhaps at that time nobody will be
>> around to care, much like there aren't many today crying in their beer
>> over not being able to run their IBM/360 code or something like that...
>>
>> I do wish I had some way to do CoCo development on my Linux box;
>
> Ah, but we do, and I have used it for a while now, its called toolshed.
> Works well, could use more docs, but it works.  Its docs are in the form of
> a .pdf manual of about 20 some pages.  That, the mamou assembler, and your
> fav linux editor and you are 2 minutes (on this machine anyway) from
> closing the editor to having a loadable .dsk image, or a loadable module
> built that you can sz to the coco and make into a new boot disk with the mb
> scripts in the nitros9 distribution.  I usually do the latter using sz.

If you're using DriveWire you can refine this process even farther.
You can reload a disk image in place with one command, or copy files
from the host computer to the coco's disk with another.  For work in C
on the CoCo, you can even include the transfer of the source from your
PC to the CoCo to the start of the make process, so typing 'make' on
the coco causes the code your just saved in your favorite editor on
your PC to be compiled on your coco :)

>
> If you go to my web page, there are links to the nitros9 I have here, or it
> can be pulled from sourceforge too.
> <http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/nitros9/index.php?title=Main_Page>
> <http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene>
> The only diff (I think) is that the serial mouse driver on my pages is
> newer.  I worked on that some about a year back.
>
>> not
>> that I currently have the time or a project in mind, much - but knowing
>> I had that option would be nice. Maybe the Rainbow IDE would run under
>> Wine? Or, maybe Phoenix will work with Mono (have you had a chance to
>> try?). As it is, my best bet would be to run SDL-MESS and dev directly
>> on the emulated CoCo using CoCo tools, and then re-test with actual
>> hardware (and other emulators). Not the ideal situation, but possible.
>>
>> I'm not really griping here - as I've noted, I don't have any projects
>> or need for doing CoCo dev at the moment, and I don't even know if I'll
>> have that need in 5 years, let alone at any sooner. I'll just continue
>> to sit back, and see what comes up in the CoCo community (and honestly,
>> I would rather see the fruits of labor that come from using your IDEs,
>> rather than the IDE alone - games, and other fun stuff of that nature).
>>
>> Thanks again...
>>
>> -- Andrew L. Ayers, Glendale, Arizona
>
>
>
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