[Coco] ENOUGH ALREADY!!! (CoCo magazine scans)

Frank Swygert farna at att.net
Fri May 22 10:43:56 EDT 2009


Bill, no one can EVER please everybody! Trying just gives headaches. The people taking the time to do the actual work need to decide what they are going to do and go from there -- it's there time and they are getting nothing for it. It's nice of them to include the community in the discussion/debate, but in the end they have to decide. We don't have to have one standard. The various archiving sites need to decide what size and type files they are willing/have room to support and go from there. In Dennis' case, where space is a concern, he may have to simply specify one format or the other to eliminate duplicity. The wiser course of action may be to specify either no duplicate files regardless of format/type (no May 89 Rainbow in PDF and DJV or any other format, and no just changing file names), or a maximum file size. Either course of action will in a way determine the format. 

There isn't one answer. If room is available using both might be the thing to do, then let the user decide what they have time/space to download. Both formats are pretty standard now, and free viewers are available. Most people will be doing nothing more than viewing, so the manipulation advantages of PDF are pretty much a moot point except to a very few. 

There's nothing wrong with debating things like this in public. Even the digest has subject headers. I simply skip over the things I don't want to participate in. 

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Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 21:08:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Barnes <da3m0n_slay3r at yahoo.com>

UGH!

People were cryin' to have this done, now they're cryin' because they don't like the size of the file, or the output of the file is illegible.

NOW... DO WE HAVE AN EXPERT among us to do the conversion???? Will said expert do this work for free or cheaply????

Are we not happy unless there's something to complain about people??? Is it any wonder we lose people on this list when better than half the time every few months we fill the list with flames or whining about what's the better format to use; this one's too big, that one is so small it can't be read, or My gadget will destroy your gadget on the market.  Are we adults here or are we just a bunch of spoiled rotten 2 year olds??? What's it going to take, the list to dwindle down to just those complainers???

I understand the concerns about how much real estate is being taken up, the time it takes to download those files, and the need for having one consistant format with enough detail to keep things looking good and readable, but yet small as feasably possible.

Let's get a calm, working solution. Meanwhile the largest resolution scans made can be adjusted later for the smaller packaging. I appreciate all the hard work put in on the scans. Let's not say "Thanks for your hard work without compensation, but this is just unnacceptable, you did it for nothing {optional colorful metaphor inserted here}."

-- 
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Motors Cars" 
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