[Coco] CCASM for Linux - and remote desktop

Michael R. Furman n6il at ocs.net
Mon Jul 23 11:40:21 EDT 2007


Think I will jump in now to offer some advise on Linux file sharing.  

You probably won't find an FTP server in the Gnome menu.  It's a system
"daemon" which is similar to a "service" in Windows Server for example.
Frequently services on Windows have a control panel widget that allows
you to control them, but this is not the case in Linux: there's a config
file and a startup script and that's about it.  This isn't a Linuxism,
its the same for ANY Unix and it has been this way since the beginning
of time (The Unix "epoch" is January 1, 1970, 00:00).  I hear what you
are saying about this, and it is not an easy problem to solve.  The best
example of a Unix with an almost complete UI is probably the Macintosh
OSX and the Aqua GUI.  Under the covers however its the Darwin operating
system, which is guess what? BSD Unix.... so you'll even have to drop
down and do some command line stuff occasionally there too.  

What you are missing is the "Run Level Editor".  This program modifies
the startup scripts to set what daemons are started at run time.  I do
recall seeing this on on earlier versions of Fedora and RedHat
Enterprise Linux so I will have to check.  The command line versions of
the run level editor is a command called chkconfig.  
    chkconfig --list 
shows all the services that are installed and you do something like
    chkconfig <name of ftpd> on 
and that will make the named service start up at the next reboot.

Now, if you want to transfer files back and forth between a Linux
machine and a Windows machine, the best way to do this is to set up the
Samba server on the Linux box and share your Linux machine's drive to
windows.  This will allow you to do things like Go Start->Run 
\\ip.addr.of.server\share and then a normal file browsing window will
show up and you can do your thing.  You can also do a normal attach
network drive so that the linux share shows up as N: for example.

Setting up Samba is not really that easy but once configured it will
probably make your life a lot easier.  There is some application in
Ubuntu that configures Samba shares for you but I forget the name (It's
quite possibly available in Fedora also, I'll have to get this).

Let me know and I'd be happy to walk you or anyone on this list through
setting up Samba.  I just dont have time to describe it right here right
now.

--
Michael R. Furman, N6IL
n6il at ocs.net
+1 408 480 5865

On Mon, 2007-07-23 at 10:00 -0400, Roger  wrote:

> Manny, I've been sitting here an hour trying to find any built-in ftp 
> servers in the Fedora Core 6 distro I have.  Why in the world these 
> tools are not in the start menus is way beyond me.  That's my big pet 
> peeve right now, how Red Hat 6 had so much in the menus, but FC 
> appears to have trimmed a lot out.
> 
> Anyway, another problem is that the RPM installer thingy is refusing 
> to install RPM packages on a big FC6 archivr web site.  Clicking on 
> the files brings up the installer wizard, followed by "cannot install 
> package..." bla bla.  NOW I'm thinking I need to update the package 
> installer, but jeez, if it won't update itself, then this seems like 
> a trap unless the magic will be from the "yum" command issued manually?
> 
> If I can set up the FTP server I can transfer files back and forth 
> between the two computers through my network, naturally, but the 
> beauty is doing it all and seeing it all from the Vista 
> computer.  This is truly almost like having Linux and Windows on one 
> computer.  Oh, the File Transfer menu option is grayed out in my 
> Windows tightvnc client.  Googling that issue hasn't turned up squat, 
> but plenty of people complaing the same song.  That might be a Vista 
> problem, but not a worry since I'm working on the FTP solution for 
> file transfers.





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