[Coco] OT -- PC needs TWO Shut Downs
KnudsenMJ at aol.com
KnudsenMJ at aol.com
Mon Apr 3 22:55:03 EDT 2006
In a message dated 4/3/06 10:44:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
lamune at doki-doki.net writes:
>This really isn't typical of a memory problem. Memory problems are
>generally either completely random or totally persistent. Also they
>generally don't manifest themselves in that manner.
I agree, the shutdown issue is not a RAM thing. RAM could be causing the
icon rot and forgetting to pwoer-save that I mentioned in a later posting.
>The most common cause of that particular behavior is a program that does
>not respond or play along with the shutdown sequence.
Yep, that's what I've been thinking.
>Best way to figure this out is to see what programs are running. Kill
>one and then try the shutdown- then reboot the thing and start over. You
>may find it that way. If not, it's something hidden, possibly malware,
>or even your antivirus package, etc.
Right. I do plan to check to see what programs do get shut down, if any, by
the first attempt. It would be a riot if Norton AV were the cause, but then
AV cops have to break a lot of the laws themselves ...
>I'm seeing a lot of weird behavior on machines from that vintage lately.
>The capacitors are crapping out and causing lots of strange behavior.
If the little chip caps that surround the SIMMs dry up, DRAM isn't worth
>Fortunately PCs have almost no nostalgia value to me, so I'd happily
>trash it. I'll also take the same stance as I took with people 'round
>here running Red Hat 9. Time to upgrade. That was so 1998...
I'd hate to re-install everything, and this PC does have nice audio and MIDI
connections on the front panel, and it has real peripherals like floppy and
serial ports (and CD-R/W and DVD drives).
Actually, my Linux development and music apps box runs RH 7.0. I try to
avoid the upgrade mania that Linux world has fallen into. Someone gave me a
newer box with a recent Fedora on it, much nicer, but it has no MIDI drivers and
can't be given them easily, so it's a paperweight. I'm thinking of moving
my Win98 hard drive into it and see if it will wake up as an improvement to my
rather slow Windows box. --Mike K.
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