[Coco] Re: [Color Computer] eBay item 5158119652 (Ends Jan-24-05 20:57:32 PST) - CM-8 RGB Monitor For Tandy Color Computer 3

John R. Hogerhuis jhoger at pobox.com
Thu Jan 20 22:08:19 EST 2005


On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 18:16, glenvdb wrote:
> --- In ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com, "glenvdb" <glenvdb at h...> wrote:
> > 
> > Thanks for the advice, but I realy think that bid sniping is 
> > unethical and immoral and should be outlawed.
> > -Just my 2 cents.
> > 
> Maybe I should explain this stance before I get flamed again. As both 
> a buyer and seller on E-bay, I believe everyone should have the 
> chance to bid fairly on any product. I think, that every buyer should 
> see what the last bidder's max is, because that will give them the 
> choice if they want to bid.

Ebay allows sniping software. It is normal acceptable behavior. Everyone
has access to sniping software, so where's the unfairness exactly?

>  I think bidding wars are great. They give 
> the seller the best possible price for the product,

Hmm, yes, bidding wars are great for the seller. I thought you said you
were buying?

>  and it shows how 
> much bidders want the product.
> Bid sniping is just plain wrong! I rank it right up there with 
> spammers and those who advcate kiddey porn.

-5 Flamebait. Ouch, that's way over the top, and I refuse to respond in
kind. Sniping is eminently rational bidding behavior. Luckily I have my
flame proof vest on. Have fun paying several times as much as you need
to, if you feel that it will advance human civilization somehow... "Gosh
hon, I just can't accept paying 75% less for that widget! It would be
unethical. What about the children?"

Like many things in life, I ask myself "What Would Spock Do?" And I'm
pretty confident, Spock would be snipe ALL of Ebay his auctions.

>  Why, then have 7 or 5 day 
> auctions on e-bay. If you have to bid snipe,then level the playing 
> field, and get E-bay to make EVERY auction only 30 seconds long. 
> Thats fair.

When I sell a product on ebay, I use longer auction times when I am
concerned that not enough people will see my auction and have a chance
to bid or set their snipe. Not everyone polls ebay or sets up automated
searches.

If Ebay wanted to stop sniping, they would randomize the ending time of
the auction +- 1 minute. They aren't doing that, and guess why. They
like snipers, period. And given that, plenty of sellers must like
snipers just fine too, since for the most part Ebay's bills are paid by
seller's fees.

I'm jumping out of this thread. Later,

-- John.



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