[Coco] Re: Re: NitrOS-9 newbie needs some help

Charlie chazbeenhad at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 10 15:47:56 EDT 2004


Thanks for the info Mark. When I jump 20 years to today I look to my left at
my AMD3000+ with a gig of ram and 120 gigs of storage. When I play with my
favorite "little" computers I grew up using I use my COCO3 and MC-10. These
2 have been getting much more time from me than the x86 system of today.

I do play with Nitros-9 a lot. Everytime I try a new release I find
something that discourages me. This latest version was working out great,
until I tried to view some pictures files with my favorite command "view"
and I was getting an error 184. This might not even be the fault of Nitros-9
but it all works under OS-9.

I'd really really like to know how to make the /TERM window white text on
all black.
My OS-9 tells me details with error messages, Nitros-9 just tells me an
error number.
My OS-9 is very custom. Most of my commands were hacked up by a guy named
"Randy" back in the Delphi sig days.
My dsave works way different, and my attr uses wildcards.... things like
that.

I know the Nitros-9 guys are working on documentation, and that is what I
think will make Nitros-9 much much better.

Don't get me wrong I'm 100% into using Nitros-9, but knowing as little as I
do about how it works, it is very easy to get frustrated.

So now I use Nitros-9 from a floppy and Tandy OS-9 from my B&B.

Charlie


<mmarlett at isd.net> wrote in message
news:41191f1d.3eb0.0 at isd.net...
> Charlie,
>
> Should work under both. All of my testing has been under NitrOS-9. Do
> yourself a favor and jump 20 years to today and use NitrOS-9. Night and
day
> difference and with the SuperDriver package and NitrOS-9 03.02.04 there is
> no need to create device descriptors. The OS does it for you! Plus the new
> format command, excellent work! Plus many other features that standard
OS-9
> can't do. Plus the speed enhancements. NitrOS-9 is avaialble in 6809/6309
> versions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
> >Mark, Is the SuperIDE with compactflash supported under Tandy OS-9 or is
> >Nitros-9 required?
> >
> >Charlie
> >
> ><mmarlett at isd.net> wrote in message
> >news:4118f996.8d.0 at cpinternet.com...
> >Nick,
> >
> >As far as the floppy goes. As Mike pointed out on the location of your
> >floppy drive. Keep in mind that the CRT is a huge magnetic field and the
> >floppy's head/disk/ribbon cable could be induced with outside EMI. When
> you
> >turn your monitor on the degaussing coil REALLY emits! You can say why
> does
> >it work in RSDOS then???? Eliminate the issue till you have this resolved
> >and functional. Then relocate and see if the problem reappears. Basic
> >troubleshooting applies here.
> >
> >What kind of errors are being reported from the format of the disk?
Please
> >provide descriptor/dmode settings and the actual error(s) being reported.
> >Need more to go on rather than the same problems are still present. I
have
> >probably configure well over 75 new coco systems with complete setups.
> >NitrOS-9 works on NTSC systems! I suspect hardware problems or PAL timing
> >issues??? Other thing to watch out for is that DECB formats SSDD 35
> tracks.
> >NitrOS-9 will do DSDD 40T, watch the media that you use to make sure it
is
> >certified as such. The people are here to help you out and work through
> ANY
> >issue(s) you might have with getting the OS up and running.
> >
> >As far as a hard drive.Skip that to..Go to a solid state drive setup.
> >SuperIDE is bar far the best product that we have created. The FLASH
> allows
> >you to put HDB-DOS into it and configure yourself, no more EPROMs. The
IDE
> >interface and onboard compact flash socket is nice and compact, pun
> >intended. No power supplies, no cables. Cost is always an issue. If my
> >sales volume increases I can lower the price! :)
> >
> >Look forward to your response and working through the issues "down
under".
> >:)
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Mark
> >Cloud-9
> >
> >>
> >>I've run the modified for 50Hz version of NitrOS-9 that Boisy sent me
and
> >it
> >>didn't change any of the problems I am experiencing. It does mean I
don't
> >>have to keep reaching for the vertical hold on my monitor to stop it
> >rolling
> >>when switching to 60Hz.
> >>
> >>I plugged in my multi-pak (that thing takes all the elegence out of the
> >>CoCo! It's so kludgy looking, especially when loaded up with
cartridges!)
> >>and I plugged in my FD502 controller which is giving me near 100% format
> >>failures and found that formatting problems ALMOST all dissappeared.
It's
> >>still not perfect but it shows that the problem must be some "bus
> loading"
> >>or "edge triggering" problem.
> >>
> >>I am beginning to feel that a hard drive is a must have to do anything
> >>serious with OS-9.
> >>
> >>What I would like is an internal IDE connector. Does anyone have one of
> >>these available for sale?
> >>
> >>Is there some sort of bus buffer that would allow me to keep the
> >Multi-crap
> >>interface out of site or better still, mount the innards in a box along
> >with
> >>floppy drives and placed under the monitor (ala TRS-80 model 1 expansion
> >>box)?
> >>
> >>Why do I hate the Multi-crap interface so much?
> >>
> >>1) I have the tandy monitor platform and with the multi-crap, I can't
> >slide
> >>the CoCo under it to save deskspace.
> >>
> >>2) Because my dual floppy drives are on the right of my monitor and up
on
> >>the platform, with the floppy cart in I can't access the drives without
> >>bumping the controller.
> >>
> >>3) It makes the CoCo3 look very much like a prototype and incomplete
> >>computer (still under development). Everyone who sees it laughs.
> >>
> >>4) It gets in the way while I'm typing, I keep bumping the carts with my
> >>right hand.
> >>
> >>
> >>5) It blew my 6809 a few years back so now I don't trust it.
> >>
> >>
> >>Nick
> >>
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