[Coco] 1702 monitor

Sat May 19 15:13:47 EDT 2018

On Saturday 19 May 2018 12:04:50 Wayne Campbell wrote:

> That's really sad. I never knew that had happened. I like Amigas. I
> wanted one back in the day, but I was doing good to afford a Coco3. I
> got my Coco 3 when they were at the end of production and they were on
> sale for clearance at the local Radio Shack for $199. In 94, I had a
> small windfall but I spent it on a Macintosh Quadra 605 as I figured
> it would be a better investment. The PowerMacs were coming out at the
> same time, so my brand new Quadra was obsolete when I bought it. I
> couldn't afford the PowerMacs. When I went to DeVry at the turn of the
> millennium I started working with PCs. Now I use Windows 10 on a HP
> Pavilion 64-bit. My phone is a moto Z2 Force and uses, of course,
> Linux in the form of Android. It's too bad that things have to go awry
> like they do. All this said, I still don't think of commodore as the
> enemy, but rather the two guys that owned it. I wonder if anyone has
> ever sued them for what they did, and what the outcome has been.
>
No, because Burmuda and the and all the Bahama's have their own laws, and 
no us citizen has standing to sue. At least thats what we were told at 
the time.

> On Sat, May 19, 2018, 8:04 AM Gene Heskett <gheskett at shentel.net> 
wrote:
> > On Saturday 19 May 2018 08:48:21 Wayne Campbell wrote:
> > > Where did the notion of commodore being the enemy come from? I
> > > never heard of such a thing.
> >
> > I think this stems from the days when all the amiga fans, me
> > included, were expecting a newer, much faster amiga base on the
> > powerpc chips of the day, but the two guys that owned Commode Door
> > at the time, instead went to the Bahama's for a "board" meeting, and
> > took the money with them.  And never came back. So those two guys
> > will forever be wearing a target T-shirt. But that was what, 20
> > years ago?
> >
> > I might also add that anybody in the accounts payable listings was
> > SOL, as was William Hawes, the fellow that wrote ARRex for the
> > amiga, who never saw a dime for writing it, nor from the publishers
> > as copyright payments. That was as close to a universal scripting
> > language as has ever existed anywhere, capable of doing things not
> > even todays bash can do. I even wrote some stuff, with Jim Hines at
> > the tv station, that we sold a few copies of. Home automation stuff.
> > Amigados did not have a cron, so Jim and I wrote that and gave it
> > away.
> >
> > > On Sat, May 19, 2018, 4:24 AM Neil Cherry <ncherry at linuxha.com> 
wrote:
> > > > On 05/19/2018 02:49 AM, RETRO Innovations wrote:
> > > > > On 5/18/2018 1:03 PM, Mike Delyea wrote:
> > > > >> Jim, did you hack a regular composite video cable into 2
> > > > >> outputs?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmm, no.  I jsut used a Y-connector to connect video to both
> > > > > chroma and
> > > >
> > > > luma on back.
> > > >
> > > > >> Is the
> > > > >> image any better than the plain composite connectors at the
> > > > >> front?
> > > > >
> > > > > It is not, but the 1701/1702 was one of the sharpest monitors
> > > > > of the
> > > >
> > > > time period (one
> > > >
> > > > > wonders how that happened, since Commodore was not know for
> > > > > quality.  In
> > > >
> > > > this case, CBM
> > > >
> > > > > did not make monitors and perhaps they could not dictate
> > > > > Thompson or
> > > >
> > > > whoever built the
> > > >
> > > > > monitor's design)
> > > >
> > > > Correct, Commodore didn't actual make the monitor. It's just a
> > > > rebranded monitor.
> > > >
> > > > > I know it is heresy to have a CBM monitor alongside a TANDY or
> > > > > other
> > > >
> > > > system, but they
> > > >
> > > > > really are awesome monitors.  The boxy shape allows on to
> > > > > stack them
> > > >
> > > > easily and put stuff
> > > >
> > > > > on top (temporarily, of course).  The built-in 2 way video
> > > > > switch is a
> > > >
> > > > nice touch as well.
> > > >
> > > > As you've noted, the Commodore monitors were quite popular at
> > > > the time. I have one I used with my Ataris & CoCos. So while it
> > > > is the 'enemy' it's correct for the time period.
> > > >
> > > > PS, Atari didn't make a monitor (that I know of) during the A8
> > > > period.
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > >
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> > --
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
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> >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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