[Coco] 1702 monitor

[Wayne Campbell]

That's really sad. I never knew that had happened. I like Amigas. I wanted
one back in the day, but I was doing good to afford a Coco3. I got my Coco
3 when they were at the end of production and they were on sale for
clearance at the local Radio Shack for $199. In 94, I had a small windfall
but I spent it on a Macintosh Quadra 605 as I figured it would be a better
investment. The PowerMacs were coming out at the same time, so my brand new
Quadra was obsolete when I bought it. I couldn't afford the PowerMacs. When
I went to DeVry at the turn of the millennium I started working with PCs.
Now I use Windows 10 on a HP Pavilion 64-bit. My phone is a moto Z2 Force
and uses, of course, Linux in the form of Android. It's too bad that things
have to go awry like they do. All this said, I still don't think of
commodore as the enemy, but rather the two guys that owned it. I wonder if
anyone has ever sued them for what they did, and what the outcome has been.

On Sat, May 19, 2018, 8:04 AM Gene Heskett <gheskett at shentel.net> wrote:

> On Saturday 19 May 2018 08:48:21 Wayne Campbell wrote:
>
> > Where did the notion of commodore being the enemy come from? I never
> > heard of such a thing.
>
> I think this stems from the days when all the amiga fans, me included,
> were expecting a newer, much faster amiga base on the powerpc chips of
> the day, but the two guys that owned Commode Door at the time, instead
> went to the Bahama's for a "board" meeting, and took the money with
> them.  And never came back. So those two guys will forever be wearing a
> target T-shirt. But that was what, 20 years ago?
>
> I might also add that anybody in the accounts payable listings was SOL,
> as was William Hawes, the fellow that wrote ARRex for the amiga, who
> never saw a dime for writing it, nor from the publishers as copyright
> payments. That was as close to a universal scripting language as has
> ever existed anywhere, capable of doing things not even todays bash can
> do. I even wrote some stuff, with Jim Hines at the tv station, that we
> sold a few copies of. Home automation stuff. Amigados did not have a
> cron, so Jim and I wrote that and gave it away.
>
> > On Sat, May 19, 2018, 4:24 AM Neil Cherry <ncherry at linuxha.com> wrote:
> > > On 05/19/2018 02:49 AM, RETRO Innovations wrote:
> > > > On 5/18/2018 1:03 PM, Mike Delyea wrote:
> > > >> Jim, did you hack a regular composite video cable into 2 outputs?
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, no.  I jsut used a Y-connector to connect video to both
> > > > chroma and
> > >
> > > luma on back.
> > >
> > > >> Is the
> > > >> image any better than the plain composite connectors at the
> > > >> front?
> > > >
> > > > It is not, but the 1701/1702 was one of the sharpest monitors of
> > > > the
> > >
> > > time period (one
> > >
> > > > wonders how that happened, since Commodore was not know for
> > > > quality.  In
> > >
> > > this case, CBM
> > >
> > > > did not make monitors and perhaps they could not dictate Thompson
> > > > or
> > >
> > > whoever built the
> > >
> > > > monitor's design)
> > >
> > > Correct, Commodore didn't actual make the monitor. It's just a
> > > rebranded monitor.
> > >
> > > > I know it is heresy to have a CBM monitor alongside a TANDY or
> > > > other
> > >
> > > system, but they
> > >
> > > > really are awesome monitors.  The boxy shape allows on to stack
> > > > them
> > >
> > > easily and put stuff
> > >
> > > > on top (temporarily, of course).  The built-in 2 way video switch
> > > > is a
> > >
> > > nice touch as well.
> > >
> > > As you've noted, the Commodore monitors were quite popular at the
> > > time. I have one I used with my Ataris & CoCos. So while it is the
> > > 'enemy' it's correct for the time period.
> > >
> > > PS, Atari didn't make a monitor (that I know of) during the A8
> > > period.
> > >
> > > --
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>
>
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