[Coco] NitrOS9 question
Dave Philipsen
dave at davebiz.com
Sat Oct 7 16:04:56 EDT 2017
Yeah, mine’s at 19200 also. Gotta check with Gary if & how the serial port on CoCo3FPGA could achieve higher speeds.
Dave
> On Oct 7, 2017, at 11:11 AM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> I also updated my term_sc6551.dt for 19200. I am thinking of trying the
> 115200, but not sure how happy my Deluxe RS232 Pak will like it since it is
> a un-patched unit.
>
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>> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 2:02 AM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Very interesting, David. Thanks for the quick update.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 11:40 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> To fix my booting issue I just added sysgo into the OS9Boot file to fill
>> up
>>> some space (*shrug*) and works fine. I know it doesn't make any sense,
>> but
>>> maybe Robert, Curtis, Bill, or Bill can give some feedback on this.
>>>
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>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:26 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok, so it’s larger than $4401. I’d be curious to see what would happen
>> if
>>>> you removed rb1773, d0, d1, and d2 from the bootfile. That would
>> probably
>>>> get it down below $4401 in size.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:19 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the directory from the root:
>>>>>
>>>>> {Term|02}/DD:dir -e
>>>>>
>>>>> Directory of . 2017/09/28 23:04
>>>>>
>>>>> Owner Last modified Attributes Sector Bytecount Name
>>>>> ----- ---------------- ---------- ------ --------- ----
>>>>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 ------wr 13 485F OS9Boot
>>>>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 5D B20 CMDS
>>>>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 66 1C0 SYS
>>>>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 6F 100 DEFS
>>>>> 0 2017/09/28 21:12 ----r-wr 78 F00 ccbkrn
>>>>> 0 2017/09/28 21:12 --e-rewr 88 1FF sysgo
>>>>> 0 2017/09/28 21:01 ----r-wr 62D F9 startup
>>>>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 62F 60 NITROS9
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> |
>> |
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>> |
>>>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> ------------+
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, so how big is the bootfile?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since I can't test this on a CoCo3FPGA right now I did finally get my
>>>>>>> Deluxe RS232 Pak working. I modified the make files for the NitrOS-9
>>>>>>> project and made myself a CoCoSDC headless that uses the sc6551
>> driver
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> term modules. Here is my short ident of my OS9Boot file. I tested
>> it
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it does work and with the standard Shell+ as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> {Term|02}/DD:ident os9boot -s
>>>>>>> 19 $C0 $FA063B . KrnP2
>>>>>>> 13 $C1 $FB10BD . IOMan
>>>>>>> 1 $C0 $9D910E . Init
>>>>>>> 37 $D1 $245E32 . RBF
>>>>>>> 2 $E1 $84C07C . RBSuper
>>>>>>> 22 $21 $230904 . llcocosdc
>>>>>>> 82 $F1 $DB0F90 . SD0
>>>>>>> 82 $F1 $081F95 . SD1
>>>>>>> 82 $F1 $F8621C . DD
>>>>>>> 1 $E1 $A4EB50 . rb1773
>>>>>>> 82 $F1 $045CD6 . D0
>>>>>>> 82 $F1 $803FAD . D1
>>>>>>> 82 $F1 $8C9A43 . D2
>>>>>>> 18 $D1 $55C62E . SCF
>>>>>>> 10 $E1 $67C110 . sc6551
>>>>>>> 83 $F1 $64212E . Term
>>>>>>> 5 $D1 $6F9717 . PipeMan
>>>>>>> 2 $E1 $895C5F . Piper
>>>>>>> 80 $F1 $D512FB . Pipe
>>>>>>> 9 $C1 $9A36A3 . Clock
>>>>>>> 1 $21 $5833D2 . Clock2
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> | David Ladd a.k.a. PacoOtaktay a.k.a. Drencor
>>>> |
>>>>>>> | YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/PacoOtaktay
>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | YouTube Gaming Live: https://gaming.youtube.com/
>>>> user/PacoOtaktay/live
>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | Websites: http://dwladd.com & http://www.theterrorzone.com
>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | G+: https://plus.google.com/113262444659438038657
>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | G+: https://plus.google.com/+DavidLaddPacoOtaktay
>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> |
>>>> |
>>>>>>> | Do you have your CoCo 3 yet?
>>>> |
>>>>>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ------------+
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to do some experiments with this on a real CoCo 3, too.
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>> using the CoCo3FPGA right now. It's much easier for me to test
>> things
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> this platform because I have the ability to boot with an alternate
>>>>>> bootfile
>>>>>>>> just by holding down the ALT key while booting. I can make changes
>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> OS9Boot.1 file while still retaining the original OS9Boot file.
>> Also,
>>>>>>>> because of Brett's bootloader, I don't have to do anything special
>> to
>>>>>>>> generate the bootfile. I just merge all of the modules needed and
>> the
>>>>>>>> bootloader will load it no matter if it's fragmented or where it
>>>>>> resides on
>>>>>>>> the disk structure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/6/2017 7:50 AM, Aaron Wolfe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We ran into the same issue when creating the headless Drivewire
>> disks
>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> years ago. If the boot file became too small, things went badly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately Boisy solved this in our case so I can't give you
>>>>>> specifics.
>>>>>>>>> Not sure if he still monitors this list, fairly sure he intended to
>>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>> the nitros9 source to correct the bug. Perhaps the fix got lost or
>>>> was
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> comprehensive. In any case, I can confirm a third case where small
>>>>>> boot
>>>>>>>>> file became an issue in itself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Aaron
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2017 8:35 AM, "Neal Crook" <foofoobedoo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In my mc09 l2 development I found a bug where a too - small
>> bootfile
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> hang. Padding it fixed the problem. I will look out the details
>> over
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> weekend and let you know, so we can see if our experiences tally.
>> It
>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>> be good to know that it was a generic problem and not specific to
>> my
>>>>>>>>> target
>>>>>>>>> hardware. I spent quite a lot of time in emulation trying to track
>> it
>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>>> without success
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Neal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2017 12:40, "Dave Philipsen" <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Haha! That doesn't work either. But as soon as I re-assemble Term
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> 265 extra bytes in it, it boots just fine. So it really does
>> appear
>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>> an issue with size and not order.
>>>>>>>>
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