[Coco] NitrOS9 question
David Ladd
davidwladd at gmail.com
Sat Oct 7 12:11:54 EDT 2017
Dave,
I also updated my term_sc6551.dt for 19200. I am thinking of trying the
115200, but not sure how happy my Deluxe RS232 Pak will like it since it is
a un-patched unit.
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On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 2:02 AM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
> Very interesting, David. Thanks for the quick update.
>
> Dave
>
> > On Oct 6, 2017, at 11:40 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > To fix my booting issue I just added sysgo into the OS9Boot file to fill
> up
> > some space (*shrug*) and works fine. I know it doesn't make any sense,
> but
> > maybe Robert, Curtis, Bill, or Bill can give some feedback on this.
> >
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> >> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:26 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, so it’s larger than $4401. I’d be curious to see what would happen
> if
> >> you removed rb1773, d0, d1, and d2 from the bootfile. That would
> probably
> >> get it down below $4401 in size.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:19 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dave,
> >>>
> >>> Here is the directory from the root:
> >>>
> >>> {Term|02}/DD:dir -e
> >>>
> >>> Directory of . 2017/09/28 23:04
> >>>
> >>> Owner Last modified Attributes Sector Bytecount Name
> >>> ----- ---------------- ---------- ------ --------- ----
> >>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 ------wr 13 485F OS9Boot
> >>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 5D B20 CMDS
> >>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 66 1C0 SYS
> >>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 6F 100 DEFS
> >>> 0 2017/09/28 21:12 ----r-wr 78 F00 ccbkrn
> >>> 0 2017/09/28 21:12 --e-rewr 88 1FF sysgo
> >>> 0 2017/09/28 21:01 ----r-wr 62D F9 startup
> >>> 0 2017/10/06 15:49 d-ewrewr 62F 60 NITROS9
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Ok, so how big is the bootfile?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dave,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since I can't test this on a CoCo3FPGA right now I did finally get my
> >>>>> Deluxe RS232 Pak working. I modified the make files for the NitrOS-9
> >>>>> project and made myself a CoCoSDC headless that uses the sc6551
> driver
> >>>> and
> >>>>> term modules. Here is my short ident of my OS9Boot file. I tested
> it
> >>>> and
> >>>>> it does work and with the standard Shell+ as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> {Term|02}/DD:ident os9boot -s
> >>>>> 19 $C0 $FA063B . KrnP2
> >>>>> 13 $C1 $FB10BD . IOMan
> >>>>> 1 $C0 $9D910E . Init
> >>>>> 37 $D1 $245E32 . RBF
> >>>>> 2 $E1 $84C07C . RBSuper
> >>>>> 22 $21 $230904 . llcocosdc
> >>>>> 82 $F1 $DB0F90 . SD0
> >>>>> 82 $F1 $081F95 . SD1
> >>>>> 82 $F1 $F8621C . DD
> >>>>> 1 $E1 $A4EB50 . rb1773
> >>>>> 82 $F1 $045CD6 . D0
> >>>>> 82 $F1 $803FAD . D1
> >>>>> 82 $F1 $8C9A43 . D2
> >>>>> 18 $D1 $55C62E . SCF
> >>>>> 10 $E1 $67C110 . sc6551
> >>>>> 83 $F1 $64212E . Term
> >>>>> 5 $D1 $6F9717 . PipeMan
> >>>>> 2 $E1 $895C5F . Piper
> >>>>> 80 $F1 $D512FB . Pipe
> >>>>> 9 $C1 $9A36A3 . Clock
> >>>>> 1 $21 $5833D2 . Clock2
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >> |
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> >> |
> >>>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------
> >>>> ------------+
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I would like to do some experiments with this on a real CoCo 3, too.
> >>>> I'm
> >>>>>> using the CoCo3FPGA right now. It's much easier for me to test
> things
> >>>> on
> >>>>>> this platform because I have the ability to boot with an alternate
> >>>> bootfile
> >>>>>> just by holding down the ALT key while booting. I can make changes
> to
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> OS9Boot.1 file while still retaining the original OS9Boot file.
> Also,
> >>>>>> because of Brett's bootloader, I don't have to do anything special
> to
> >>>>>> generate the bootfile. I just merge all of the modules needed and
> the
> >>>>>> bootloader will load it no matter if it's fragmented or where it
> >>>> resides on
> >>>>>> the disk structure.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 10/6/2017 7:50 AM, Aaron Wolfe wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We ran into the same issue when creating the headless Drivewire
> disks
> >>>> some
> >>>>>>> years ago. If the boot file became too small, things went badly.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Unfortunately Boisy solved this in our case so I can't give you
> >>>> specifics.
> >>>>>>> Not sure if he still monitors this list, fairly sure he intended to
> >>>> patch
> >>>>>>> the nitros9 source to correct the bug. Perhaps the fix got lost or
> >> was
> >>>> not
> >>>>>>> comprehensive. In any case, I can confirm a third case where small
> >>>> boot
> >>>>>>> file became an issue in itself.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -Aaron
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2017 8:35 AM, "Neal Crook" <foofoobedoo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In my mc09 l2 development I found a bug where a too - small
> bootfile
> >>>> would
> >>>>>>> hang. Padding it fixed the problem. I will look out the details
> over
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> weekend and let you know, so we can see if our experiences tally.
> It
> >>>> would
> >>>>>>> be good to know that it was a generic problem and not specific to
> my
> >>>>>>> target
> >>>>>>> hardware. I spent quite a lot of time in emulation trying to track
> it
> >>>> down
> >>>>>>> without success
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Neal
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2017 12:40, "Dave Philipsen" <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Haha! That doesn't work either. But as soon as I re-assemble Term
> >>>> with
> >>>>>>> 265 extra bytes in it, it boots just fine. So it really does
> appear
> >>>> to be
> >>>>>>> an issue with size and not order.
> >>>>>>
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