[Coco] So, how do I make Drivewire go?

Aaron Wolfe aawolfe at gmail.com
Mon Sep 23 19:24:32 EDT 2013 

Can you please send a bug report using the built in tool when this
happens?  It will help me identify what is going on.

On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Luis Antoniosi (CoCoDemus)
<retrocanada76 at gmail.com> wrote:
> BTW Aaron, I updated to the last version I think now is the P ? Did it
> yesterday and on Linux, Ubuntu 13.4 I still get NullExceptionPointer in the
> drive grid when not running as super user.
>
> Strange that, if I don't press to close the application I can still use it,
> change disks like nothing happened only the window is there waiting for me
> to close the application.
>
> If I start it as sudo ./DWUI.sh it runs fine. This problem happens since
> the version C I guess.
>
> thxs
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Aaron Wolfe <aawolfe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Let us know if the read wait helps.  I can change the defaults to
>> include it for a CoCo 1.  I don't have one, and very few use one with
>> DW, so it is quite possible that the defaults don't work well for all
>> coco 1s.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Christopher Smith <csmith at wolfram.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I'll try putting in a read wait.  Haven't touched any "advanced" configs
>> since I just expected them to be set to reasonable values out of the box.
>> ;)  Anyway, as I was saying I can't say for sure that this thing hasn't
>> been modified.  It was a goodwill purchase.  Internally it's pretty
>> normal-looking, but I wouldn't notice if a part number were different than
>> it should be.  All of the chips on the board are socketed.  I assume, but
>> can't say for sure, that the previous owner was a fellow enthusiast,
>> considering the upgraded keyboard.
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Luis Antoniosi (CoCoDemus)" <retrocanada76 at gmail.com>
>> >> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> >> Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:17:35 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Coco] So, how do I make Drivewire go?
>> >>
>> >> When I tested with my umodded coco1, I remember i tried several times
>> >> and
>> >> it didn't work until I found that changing the advanced configs and
>> >> adding
>> >> a Read Wait of 1 or 2 solved the problem.
>> >>
>> >> But then I decided to replace the 741 and I have no regrets since
>> >> them
>> >> using it at the same coco2 speed. This makes things even easier like
>> >> only
>> >> one ROM cartridge.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Christopher Smith
>> >> <csmith at wolfram.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > That's the file I'm using, though I can't _guarantee_ that my CoCo
>> >> > is
>> >> > unmodded.  I'm not the first owner, and somebody did throw a CoCo 3
>> >> > keyboard onto it, so there's a chance they changed some other stuff
>> >> > around
>> >> > as well.  Will using the HDBDW3CC1 ROM file if they put a newer
>> >> > op-amp in?
>> >> >  I could always grab the CoCo 2 ROM, set the servers to CoCo 2
>> >> >  mode, and
>> >> > see what happens.  Worst case I suspect is precisely the same
>> >> > problem I
>> >> > have now.
>> >> >
>> >> > Chris
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > From: "Luis Antoniosi (CoCoDemus)" <retrocanada76 at gmail.com>
>> >> > > To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts"
>> >> > > <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> >> > > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 3:03:27 PM
>> >> > > Subject: Re: [Coco] So, how do I make Drivewire go?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > on an umodded coco1 you should use the HDBDW3CC1.BIN/ROM/WAV
>> >> > >
>> >> > > This is because of the 741 op-amp it has. If you change it to a
>> >> > > JEFT
>> >> > > TL081
>> >> > > or any other newer op-amp, then you can use the
>> >> > > HDBDW3CC2.BIN/ROM/WAV.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Smith
>> >> > > <csmith at wolfram.com>wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > The machine is a CoCo 1, 64k.  It had one floppy drive hooked
>> >> > > > up
>> >> > > > locally
>> >> > > > through a Tandy controller; I don't think that should matter.
>> >> > > >  HDBDOS did
>> >> > > > manage to work the local drive when I typed DRIVE OFF.  The ROM
>> >> > > > image I was
>> >> > > > using came from cloud-9's Drivewire 3 page, so I assume it's
>> >> > > > not
>> >> > > > the DW4
>> >> > > > ROM.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I thought about running a serial sniffer on the host side and
>> >> > > > seeing
>> >> > > > what's going on.  Trouble is that I don't really have a
>> >> > > > terminal
>> >> > > > program
>> >> > > > for the CoCo.  I could download one and send it over with
>> >> > > > Drivewire
>> >> > > > of
>> >> > > > course, but if that worked I wouldn't need it... ;)
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Chris
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > > > From: "Tormod Volden" <lists.tormod at gmail.com>
>> >> > > > > To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts"
>> >> > > > > <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 2:42:33 PM
>> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [Coco] So, how do I make Drivewire go?
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
>> >> > > > > > Since everyone else is talking about it, I thought I'd
>> >> > > > > > write in
>> >> > > > > > about my experience with Drivewire last week.  I thought
>> >> > > > > > I'd
>> >> > > > > > set
>> >> > > > > > up Drivewire and get the CoCo actually doing something.
>> >> > > > > >  Pulled
>> >> > > > > > the HDBDOS WAV file for the CoCo 1 from the cloud-9 web
>> >> > > > > > page.
>> >> > > > > >  Also installed the Drivewire 4 server on my Linux box and
>> >> > > > > >  the
>> >> > > > > > MacOS X Drivewire 3 server on a different machine, just in
>> >> > > > > > case.
>> >> > > > > >  The cable, as far as I can tell, is correct.  I made it
>> >> > > > > >  after
>> >> > > > > > this diagram:
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> >
>> http://www.mediafire.com/view/c91gj67kw7q6yzu/CoCo_DriveWire_3_Serial_Cable.pdf
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > It sounds like you did everything that is needed. Note that
>> >> > > > > above
>> >> > > > > cable is not prepared for DATurbo mode, so you must not use a
>> >> > > > > DW4
>> >> > > > > WAV
>> >> > > > > file. What kind of CoCo are we talking about?
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > > Anyway, I load up either Drivewire server, tell it to serve
>> >> > > > > > some
>> >> > > > > > floppy images, load HDBDOS off cassette, and everything
>> >> > > > > > looks
>> >> > > > > > ok
>> >> > > > > > but the only thing I can get HDBDOS to tell me about any
>> >> > > > > > disk
>> >> > > > > > device is "I/O Error."  It flashes lights on the serial
>> >> > > > > > interface
>> >> > > > > > when it tries to access the disk, but the server doesn't
>> >> > > > > > seem
>> >> > > > > > to
>> >> > > > > > do anything useful in response.  I'm afraid it's been a
>> >> > > > > > couple
>> >> > > > > > of
>> >> > > > > > days, but I remember seeing a lot of OP_NOP in the log.  Am
>> >> > > > > > I
>> >> > > > > > missing something obvious here?  How does one debug this
>> >> > > > > > stuff?
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > How to debug depends a bit on your equipment and skills. I
>> >> > > > > would
>> >> > > > > have
>> >> > > > > run some terminal emulation program on both ends to verify
>> >> > > > > that
>> >> > > > > you
>> >> > > > > have the physical setup correct. I don't know what's
>> >> > > > > available on
>> >> > > > > CoCo, but on the other computer you can use Hyperterminal on
>> >> > > > > Windows
>> >> > > > > or "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 57600" on Linux.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > The flashing light and NOP in the logs indicate that
>> >> > > > > communication is
>> >> > > > > at least working in one direction.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > > Tormod
>> >> > > > >
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