[Coco] MESS at 16k non-ext was Terminal program for 16K non-ECB coco?

[Bill Pierce]

Mr Gault... I should have known better <laughing>

 I'm not trying to change ANY hardware into any others. I mearly want to set a Coco 2 or Coco 1 to 16k, Color Basic. (no ext basic), as was a standard retail configuration (I own one). I tried 2 versions of MESS, "Mess0125b" & "mess0143b_x64" (I have a 64 bit machine), both in Windows Home Premium 64 bit.

 When the "Ext Basic" roms are removed from the rom zips, NO version of Coco 1 or 2 will run at all. MESS reports missing Roms and exits the emulation. The Coco 1 will actually set to 4k, 16k, 32k, & 64k.... BUT.... 
Did anyone ever successfully run Ext Basic in 4K?

I do not know how to set the "ini" file in ANY version of MESS, and maybe this is what I should have asked in the beginning. Can you turn off the "Ext Basic" rom check? If so, How? And what version would do this best? I can and will run any Windows or Dos version to achieve this.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Gault <robert.gault at att.net>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 8, 2012 9:03 am
Subject: Re: [Coco] MESS at 16k non-ext was Terminal program for 16K non-ECB coco?


Bill Pierce wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
> Is there a way to get MESS to run as Coco 2, 16k,  Color Basic (no ext Basic).
> I tried removing the disk & ext basic Roms but it errors without ext basic. 
Also
 > when I set the properties to 16k, it still comes up showing 24k on a 
"PRINTMEM"
 > except the Cocoe which seems to have combined roms, so that's not taking
 > either. I tried all three Coco 2s. I don't use MESS regularly so I'm at a 
loss. I know
 > some of you do custom builds. We need an emulation of Cocos at 4k, 16k,32k 
with
 > no Ext or Disk Roms. It seems MESS wil allow the Disk rom to be pulled but 
not Ext Basic.
>

Bill and everyone else, it is not possible to give detailed information on MESS 
unless the specific version in use is told to us. MESS is constantly changing 
and changes between some versions are major!

By definition, you can't change a hardware Coco3 or a Coco2 into a Coco1 even if 

you remove ROMs. There are circuits and support chips that are different. MESS 
tries as much as possible to emulate hardware. Also the recent versions of MESS 
will not ignore most error messages regarding "incorrect ROMs."

Bill, your best bet is to use coco emulation in MESS not any of the others. 
Depending on the version, you may need to make manual changes in the .ini file.

Please supply details not summaries in questions about troubleshooting.

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