[Papyrus-L] An observation and a question about Papyrus
Hugh Gunz
hugh.gunz at utoronto.ca
Sat Oct 13 13:41:35 EDT 2001
One thing about Biblioscape that doesn't seem to have come up in discussion
yet, but which might well be of interest to anyone running a research group
or who works in several different locations, is the webserver it includes
(in the "Pro" package). I haven't tried it, but it's supposed to allow
approved users to have either read or read/write access (depending on the
setup chosen) to the database across the Internet, using a web browser.
Hugh Gunz
At 13:29 2001-10-13 -0400, Raisa Deber wrote:
>At 09:44 PM 10/12/2001 +0000, you wrote:
>
>>Rick Lentz's suggestion about member support for further development
>>basically amounts to suggesting that RSD should go public, if there is to
>>be substantial support. That's a big step and probably distasteful to
>>Dave and his crew.
>>
>>I seem to be the only one who doesn't understand why abandoning the move
>>toward a Windows version is such a calamity. It is evidently such an
>>elementary thing that everyone else takes it for granted, but someone
>>please explain to me why we would want a Windows version? What am I
>>missing with the present DOS version? This is not a joke. Please explain.
>
>A few things. First, the ability to handle long file names. I do a lot
>of collaborative work, and the files are not always unique in the first
>six characters. Second, some issues around use of special character sets
>(e.g., if the reference is in a foreign language). Third, use of the clip
>board can be a pain - I use Windows 2000, and it seems to make random
>changes to the clip board file if I use the Papyrus default name (not to
>mention Papyrus' habit of forgetting that I asked it to use a file and
>needing to have this initialized over and over again); this really fouls
>up inserting references into manuscripts.
>
>I agree; I've been checking out the competition a bit (don't have time for
>anything thorough) and it does not seem to be nearly as good as
>Papyrus. Those of you who have switched - and I still hope I won't have
>to - which systems allow you to keep the Papyrus reference numbers? Our
>whole system, being used by our research team (and yes, I purchased a few
>copies, even though the license policy said that wasn't necessary), is all
>filed by Papyrus number, with a '"located" set of keywords to indicate who
>has hard copy. Switching to any system which doesn't allow that - e.g.,
>those which do dynamic allocation of record numbers - is simply not
>on. That being said, Biblioscape seems better than End Note, Reference
>Manager, or Pro Cite - but the details just aren't there, and I really do
>not have the time for trying to investigate systems and port them
>over. So, we're staying with Papyrus for now - but I'm starting to think
>about the long term, and how much we can rely on Papyrus to still be
>there. (I have this awful tendency to like legacy systems.)
>
>Dave - these cries of anguish indicate the high esteem in which we hold
>you and your team. Are you burned out with Papyrus? What's the
>story? How can we help?
>Best wishes
>Raisa Deber
>
>>Christopher K. Starr
>>Dep't of Life Sciences
>>University of the West Indies
>>St Augustine, Trinidad & Tobago
>>
>>
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>Raisa B. Deber, PhD
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