[Coco] working with the sdc

Mon Nov 5 09:44:57 EST 2018

If you are interested in using the SDC to launch DW I can send u a. Dsk that contains the modified HDBDOS DW.    You just place the. Dsk on the root of the SD card. Then open the. Dsk and launch dW

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I also use the SDC to launch DW. This way you can move files between DW and the SDC seamlessly

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGQ_vE6GcM

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I found the videos. Thanks for posting those.
Looks like you're using HDB-DOS?
What is the purpose of the POKE?

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From: Coco <coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com> on behalf of rietveld rietveld <rietveldh at hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 8:43 PM
To: Adam Coolich
Subject: Re: [Coco] working with the sdc

Not sure if anyone is interested but I have a video on YouTube showing how to use DW, SDC, and the SuperIDE all at the same time.   You can move files between all 3 rather easily

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Gene,
I think if you refer to the CocoSDC manual on http://cocosdc.blogspot.com/ most of your questions will be answered.

That being said, I've been experimenting with running the CocoSDC alongside DW4 for about a month on my Coco3. The SDC DOS allows DW drives to be mounted in drives 2 and 3. So if you have something mounted in drive 0 in DW, then the SDC DOS commands are:
DRIVE 2,#0     (mounts DW drive 0 to SDC drive 2)
DRIVE 2           (changes the focus to SDC drive 2)
DIR

If you have a virtual hard drive mounted in DW, you can access an individual drive index like this:
DRIVE 2,#0,125      (mounts index 125 from the virtual drive in DW drive 0)

You can create a new .DSK image on your flash drive using the DRIVE command.
DRIVE 0,"STUFF.DSK",NEW

Now you can copy stuff from DW to the CocoSDC.
COPY "FILE.BAS:2" TO "FILE.BAS:0"
Or you can use the BACKUP command.

If you want full DW 4 functionality, then you have to use HDB-DOS or Nitros-9. The good news is that you can boot either from the CocoSDC. I have HDB-DOS in one of the SDC's flash banks if I feel like using it. The manual gives the step-by-step instructions for flashing the SDC banks. If I want to run Nitros-9 I just use the SD card. There's a shell program called SDC Explorer that works great and makes it really easy to boot Nitros-9 (see the link above).

There are SDC modules for Nitros-9, but I've only briefly explored them. I believe that you can do similar operations through Nitros-9 once you've loaded the proper modules. So far I've read a disk image and copied some files from drive to drive in Nitros-9.

Hope this helps you get started with the CocoSDC!

Adam Coolich

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From: Coco <coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com> on behalf of Gene Heskett <gheskett at shentel.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 12:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [Coco] working with the sdc

On Saturday 03 November 2018 20:44:49 rietveld rietveld wrote:

> hi gene
>
>
> just put the sd card in your pc
>
> Drag the SETUP.DSK on to the ROOT of the SDcard
>
> Put the SD card back into the SDC
>
> type DRIVE 0, "SETUP.DSK"
>
> type RUN "SETUP.BAS"
>
> just follow the on screen instructions to install FIRMWARE (120) and
> SDC-DOS (1.6)
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Coco <coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com> on behalf of tfadden
> <t.fadden at cox.net> Sent: November 3, 2018 5:01 PM
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [Coco] working with the sdc
>
>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Gene Heskett" <gheskett at shentel.net>
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> Sent: 11/3/2018 1:13:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [Coco] working with the sdc
>
> >On Wednesday 31 October 2018 21:51:39 rietveld rietveld wrote:
> >>hi
> >>
> >>I just sent you the sdc manual and the latest firmware to update the
> >>sdc ________________________________
> >>From: Coco <coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com> on behalf of Gene Heskett
> >><gheskett at shentel.net> Sent: October 31, 2018 9:18 PM
> >>To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> >>Subject: [Coco] working with the sdc
> >>
> >>Greetings all;
> >>
> >>I thought, since my 1Gb Seagates are out of commish, I thought this
> >>might be a good time to make my first run sdc kit work,
> >>
> >>It seems to be recognized at power up by signing on as SDC 1.2, but
> >>anything typed, like a "dir"return is a sN error (IIRC)
> >>
> >>
> >>All 4 of the dip switches are "OFF" th red led blinks once at power
> >>up.
> >>
> >>So I guess what I need is a startup tutorial. Is there such a
> >> critter?
> >
> >Unforch, <rietveld rietveld <rietveldh at hotmail.com> it appears that a
> >working rsdos version of DW is required, something I have never had
> > as my hdb-dos is too old.
> >
> >Installing SETUP.DSK to a 2Gb sd is accomplished in just a few
> >milliseconds, probably destructively to the sd as this system has
> > never been able to access a 256 byte sectored device since I built
> > it a decade
> >ago, the floppy hardware, when asked to read a 256 byte sectored
> > device has from the gitgo, locked the machine up tight, responding
> > only to the hardware reset on the front panel, even the 4 second
> > timer on the power button doesn't run.  So there isn't any way I
> > have at my disposal, to actually copy SETUP.DSK to a floppy disk and
> > run it from that floppy booting to HDB-DOS 1.A in the floppy as the
> > disk basic.
> >
> >With this dd written sd in it, it still logs in as sdc v1.2, but
> >anything
> >typed is an error.
> >
> >So whats next? These are 2Gb sd's, same size as came in the sdc when
> > I bought it out of the first run. And not having os9 available, I
> > can't even rzsz it to a coco floppy. I need to bootstrap this from
> > scratch, from hardware that freezes this machine when asked to deal
> > with 256 byte
> >sector.
> >
> >I need a beer, but its too early for my 1 a day.  Near beer at that
> >since
> >I'm a DM-II.
> >
> >Suggestion/bricks thrown at an old basic challenged dummy? Never
> >figured
> >I have to back clear up to the tsr-15 days to get this started again.
> >Thanks all.
> >
> >--
> >Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >--
> >"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> >soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> >-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> >Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
> >
> >Gene,
>
> What are you trying to accomplish? What you are saying sounds overly
> complex, and convoluted.  You shouldn't have to be messing with sector
> sizes, etc. The sdc media should be formatted to Fat16, and the image
> files just copied over like a regular file...  There are os9 images
> available.
>
> Let me know what you are trying to accomplish, perhaps I can help.
>
> I boot my system from floppy, and have a couple of scsi disks attached
> with partitions, able to talk to the sdc, and drive wire along with
> the regular floppies, and the 6 scsi partitions.
>
> Any how
>
> Take care,
> Tim
>
Couldn't stand the suspense so I dug out the 2nd card and made
a /media/dos directory, then had to change its perms to 0766. Then
mounted it "mount -t vfat /dev/sde1 /media/dos" worked. Fired up a root
session of mc and copied SETUP.DSK to /media/dos and it immediately
showed up in the right panel.  quit mc, sudo eject /media/dos. LED on
card reader went out. Pulled it, went down and restarted the washer so
my tidy whitie's got more rinsing to get the soap out, and then followed
the above to update both the firmware and sdc dos to 1.6. Then I shut it
down and swapped back to the original card which is supposed to be
loaded.

But no idea whats there. should there not be a dir like command that
reads and the whole content of all the .dsk images on that sd card?

drive ENTER shows
0 ===== 0
1 ===== 1
2 dw    2
2 dw    3

but I was not of course schmardt enough to have drivewire 4.3.4 running
here before I went down to the coco3.

And it now sounds like we've a python based competitor to DW. But I've
not looked at it yet. Has anyone else, and if, how does it compare?

Not that it would do much good, everything I can mount via the dw gui is
nitros9, no DEB images here.

can one do a "dir drive 0" etc to get the contents of drive 0 for
instance, incrementing the drive number 0-255 I assume?

Now I need to see about some decent sleep, I didn't get much last night,
leg cramps. I don't recommend getting old, not even the AARP propaganda
about these being the golden years helps. But the alternative is dying
young and thats no fun either.

Take care all;

--
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>

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