[Coco] Rs232 Pack

Wed Feb 7 17:17:03 EST 2018

Yes, and you can still use Internet Explorer or download Chrome or Firefox.

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From: rietveld rietveld<mailto:rietveldh at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 1:38 PM
To: Oswaldo Aquique<mailto:coco at maltedmedia.com>
Subject: Re: [Coco] Rs232 Pack

I still love Java for its ease of use.   I don't even mind the Windows 10 workarounds that are needed for it.

I think that's also a reason people would shy away from a VCC in Java. A lot of people are under the false impression that the newest Windows(10) doesn't support Java. The fact is its only Microsoft 's newest browser that doesn't.
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I am a big fan of the mocha coco emulator

Windows 10 does support Java. The issue Edge users encounter is the lack of plug-ins support by Edge. ‎There is simply no way to activate or enable the Java plug-in with the Edge web browser. Windows 10 supports Java, but the Edge browser does not

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From: Oswaldo Aquique
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 4:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [Coco] Rs232 Pack

That's exactly right... Visual Studio is Microsoft's IDE for development. You can use it for many different languages including C++, C#, Visual Basic, even Python (in the latest versions). VS <> VB (or if you prefer a C/C++/C# notation: VS != VB) 😊

Also agree with the comparison of Java being closer to C# than C++.

Microsoft compilers have improved over time, so it would be good to attempt compiling VCC in a modern version of VS.

Cheers,
Oswaldo

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From: Coco <coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com> On Behalf Of Salvador Garcia via Coco
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [Coco] Rs232 Pack

 I sort of agree in that Java is somewhat like C++, but once you start programming in it you'll see that they are worlds apart. Without getting into the syntax, C++ was designed to run on top of the hardware.Obviously, with Windows, Linux and others, various levels of abstraction have been introduced. Even VCC makes heavy use of components (DLLs) that form a chain going to the hardware. Java, on the other hand, was meant to run in an isolated environment, a sand box you can call it. This isolated environment is what we call the Virtual machine (VM). This is a huge level of abstraction! But the advantage is that the VM being the bridge from the Java app to the host's environment, a developer can write the Java source and know that it will work in any VM, independent of operating system and hardware.

I am sure that VCC could be implemented in Java; however, I would think that it would be slower because of the added layers that it has to go through. If I recall correctly, VCC was written using Visual Studio (VS) 6 which was MS' development environment of the 90s. I know that great effort has been made to migrate it to a newer version of VS. Last I heard, it was loadable in VS 2015. Perhaps that's where the original confusion comes from. VS was an environment that hosted Visual Basic, Visual J++ and C++, so some people, upon hearing "VS" automatically assume that is VB.

I would probably compare Java more to C# than to its ancestor C++. :-) Salvador

    On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 1:50:18 PM CST, rietveld rietveld <rietveldh at hotmail.com> wrote:

 I know java is similar to c+ but I just never was able to get a grasp on it. It's allot more complex than java

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Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 2:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [Coco] Rs232 Pack

 Oops. Looks like we got off the list. I am forwarding this back into it. Salvador
    On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 11:37:28 AM CST, rietveld rietveld <rietveldh at hotmail.com> wrote:

 OK. I don't code in c.  I only use Java    and I still remember visual basic.
I don't know if a. DLL in MinGW would work Sent from my BlackBerry Passport Red Edition.
| From: Salvador GarciaSent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:21 PMTo:
| rietveld rietveldSubject: Re: [Coco] Rs232 Pack |

No VB in VCC! It is all written in C++ :-) Salvador

On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 10:48:05 AM CST, rietveld rietveld <rietveldh at hotmail.com> wrote:

First does anyone know if VCC was written using Visual Basic?

.DLL is an acronym for "Dynamic Link Library". Otherwise known by the more generic name "shared object library", this is a collection of common functions and data entities which a program may refer to at run time, without requiring the function code or data to be duplicated within the program file itself.

You can use MinGW to create a. DLL

MinGW comes with a handy tool which does most of the work for you:
dlltool.exe

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Subject: [Coco] Rs232 Pack

Question is there any way to take the Old Tandy Rs232 Pack and make it a loaded rom in Vcc? If not I would like to try and write Rs232pak.dll but I need some information on how to do it? The specs would be the same as the old Tandy Rs232 Pack.

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