[Coco] Rs232 Pack

phil pt ptaylor2446 at gmail.com
Tue Dec 18 12:40:36 EST 2018


>From what I rember Ribbs was written by Rob Bihler not by Rick Adams.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 12:39 PM phil pt <ptaylor2446 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can you please explain since the /t2 driver depended on the Rs232 pack in
> the old days how will it work with the Coco Eumator and Drivewire using the
> same memory address as the Rss232 pack to determine when data is being
> received, sent and carrier detect?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 10:55 PM Gene Heskett <gheskett at shentel.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Monday 17 December 2018 21:18:42 phil pt wrote:
>>
>> > I do not think that is going to work. I think the Rs232 pack support
>> > will need to be added. The T2 Drivers is the software which use the
>> > Rs232 Pack to communicate.
>>
>> /t2 s not the driver Phil, its the descriptor, and it has pointed at at
>> least 2 different drivers over the history of os9/nitros9  On a coco2, I
>> used aciapak.dr, which worked fine at 2400 baud but I have also used the
>> sacia.dr, which also worked fine, but in the leadup to the full nitros9,
>> apparently a very handy patch, I believe by Rick Adams who wrote RiBBS
>> has been discarded from the nitros9 sources, perhaps whoever was
>> reviewing and "optimizing the code" took it out because they wre never
>> aware of it, and hardware flow control hasn't worked at my place since.
>> It consisted of instructions to swap a couple pins on the 6551, and a
>> patch to the driver, I forget which one now, which made 7 wire flow
>> control work perfectly. If that patch could be located again, I might be
>> co-erced into updating it so it works again. Somewhere in my travails
>> with an original B&B XT-RTC, that patch got overwritten & lost forever
>> to me.
>>
>> If that patch could be dug out of someones archive and made available, it
>> sure would be nice. If you look at the tech docs for the 6551, you will
>> come to the conclusion its a broken chip as shipped, and this patch
>> fixes it.
>>
>> Its possible that the lack of this patch is what you are fighting with. I
>> also no longer have a copy of RiBBS, due to the same problem I had from
>> the gitgo with the original B&B XT-RTC controller, it had a nasty habit
>> of handing os9 a sector of the allocation map that was 256 bytes of
>> 0x00's. The net result was that that page of the allocation map was then
>> considered empty and allocateable for new file storage overwriting what
>> was there. RiBBS was just one loss of many. That was on my original hard
>> drive, a 30 meg RLL drive. I spent more time rebuilding the filesystem,
>> learning everything there is to know about it, than in actually useing
>> it. Almost gave up and went back to a TI-99/4A I still have but its  not
>> been powered up in about 30 years now.
>>
>> > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 11:49 AM Gene Heskett <gheskett at shentel.net>
>> wrote:
>> > > On Monday 17 December 2018 07:52:27 phil pt wrote:
>> > > > The old Rs232 pack so that the old programs like Ribbs bbs may
>> > > > work and without re-writting several hundred lines of codes.
>> > > > There is also old programs that support the Rs232 pack.
>> > >
>> > > Nitros9 supports it at any address you hack it to, just make it what
>> > > fits in your hardware by dmodeing the descriptor for /t2. Unless
>> > > RiBBS carries its own driver it shouldn't care.
>> > >
>> > > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2018 at 7:42 AM rietveld rietveld
>> > > > <rietveldh at hotmail.com>
>> > > >
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > > What support were you hoping to add.   I know DW is now
>> > > > > supported by David Ladd
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Sent from my BlackBerry
>> > > > >   Original Message
>> > > > > From: phil pt
>> > > > > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 7:25 AM
>> > > > > To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
>> > > > > Reply To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
>> > > > > Subject: [Coco] Rs232 Pack
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Hello
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I know that I bought up this subject before but I think its very
>> > > > > important that adding support for the RS232 pack would offer two
>> > > > > things to the coco community.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 1) Adding Rs232 pack using the same orginal address may allow
>> > > > > the old software like Ribbs to work without having to re-write
>> > > > > several hundred lines of code.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 2) It may encourage more people to write applications for the
>> > > > > coco and make it easer.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Sorry I do not beleive if we used a smaller computer system back
>> > > > > in the 60's to send a man to the mon and 6809 I think was used
>> > > > > on the earler space shuttles nothing is impossible.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Phil Taylor
>> > > > >
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