[Coco] NitrOS9 question

Thu Oct 5 23:46:14 EDT 2017

Ok, well here's something somewhat interesting.  I don't have the VTIO 
source file setup yet where I can assemble it on my CoCo3FPGA. But, I 
made a copy of the VTIO module and I patched it by putting 'RTS' in 
place of the long branches to init, read, write, getstat, settat, and 
the first byte of the term routines.  So, effectively, there is no 
access to the module.  When I include it in the bootfile for the 
headless boot the shell still works!

So could it be just the mere existence of the VTIO module makes the 
shell work for some oddball reason?

The next thing I'm going to try is to assemble a 100% bogus VTIO module 
with only code in it to return (rts) from the six entry points and see 
what happens.

Dave

On 10/5/2017 10:05 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
> There's 2 shells built in NitrOS9... try the other one. The one used in L2 is ShellPlus. The L1 shell (will work in L2) is shell_21.
> Shell plus monitors for keystrokes for the arrow keys for the cmd line so that may be what you're running into. I don't think shell_21 does this (not sure).
>
>   
>
>   
>
> Bill Pierce
> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull
>
> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>
> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
>
>   
>
>   
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Thu, Oct 5, 2017 10:18 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS9 question
>
> Look in nitros9-v3.3.0/level2/defs/DefsfileSee if it's listed there.  It may be of no consequence though. Interesting thing is that I can tell sysgo to run another program on startup instead of shell and it will run.  The only way I can get shell to run is if I include VTIO in the bootfile.DaveOn 10/5/2017 9:00 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:> Dave, where did you get your sources? I have searched the entire repository for "systype" and found nothing. I remember systype from vanilla OS9, but I don't think it's used anymore.> The current VTIO source does reference "cocovtio.d" though.>>   >>   >> Bill Pierce> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com>>   >>   >> -----Original Message-----> From: Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>> To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>> Sent: Thu, Oct 5, 2017 6:00 pm> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS9 question>> Ok, so now I am delving in to vtio.asm and I've hit another brick wall.  I thought I had all of the files required to build NitrOS9 but I see a reference to a file called "systype" in the defsfile. My defsfile only references os9defs, rbfdefs, scfdefs, and cocodefs.  Where do I find the systype file?  Perhaps it contains the refrerence for SHFTCLR and ohers.DaveOn 10/5/2017 4:12 PM, David Ladd wrote:> Dave,>> I have not tried NitrOS-9 L2 as a headless configuration yet.  Looking at> the headless section in the build process for the NitrOS-9 Project.  I> don't see the keyboard, joy, or snd driver in the headless area so that is> a good sign.  I do see a scdwv.dr and term_scdwv.dt which tells me that you> probably can use the term_sc6551.dt and sc6551.dr.>> I myself can not verify this as my CoCo3FPGA is not in working condition> right now.  As soon as I get my Analog board back I will certainly
> try some> of this out.>> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+> | David Ladd a.k.a. PacoOtaktay a.k.a. Drencor                          |> | YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/PacoOtaktay                      |> | YouTube Gaming Live: https://gaming.youtube.com/user/PacoOtaktay/live |> | Websites: http://dwladd.com     &     http://www.theterrorzone.com    |> | G+:  https://plus.google.com/113262444659438038657                    |> | G+:  https://plus.google.com/+DavidLaddPacoOtaktay                    |> |           |> | Do you have your CoCo 3 yet?                                          |> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:>>> Ummm....I shouldn't need to.  I've defined T2 as the default console in>> Init.>>>> In fact, as I'm writing this I just tried adding Term back into the>> bootfile and I still have the same problem.  I get the Init and sysgo>> sign-on banners but the shell is not chained.>>>>>> Dave>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2017 2:04 PM, David Ladd wrote:>>>>> Dave,>>>>>>> I think you still need a TERM descriptor?  Though in this case you>>> probably>>> need a TERM descriptor based on T2?>>>>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+>>> | David Ladd a.k.a. PacoOtaktay a.k.a. Drencor                          |>>> | YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/PacoOtaktay                      |>>> | YouTube Gaming Live: https://gaming.youtube.com/user/PacoOtaktay/live |>>> | Websites: http://dwladd.com     &     http://www.theterrorzone.com    |>>> | G+: https://plus.google.com/113262444659438038657                    |>>> | G+:  https://plus.google.com/+DavidLaddPacoOtaktay                    |>>> |    |>>> | Do you have your CoCo 3 yet?                                          |>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:>>
>>>>> Ok, so I've successfully eliminated CoWin, KeyDrv, SndDrv, JoyDrv, RBDW,>>>> DWIO, RAMD, R0, and Term from my bootfile and the CoCo3FPGA boots up>>>> with a>>>> shell on T2.  But, when I try to remove VTIO I get the signon message>>>> from>>>> Init on T2 but I don't get a shell.  To my knowledge VTIO is simply a>>>> device driver module for the SCF window devices.  If I have no window>>>> device descriptors in the bootfile, then, why is VTIO needed?  See output>>>> from 'mdir' below:>>>>>>>>>>>> KrnP2       Init        Clock      Clock2      IOMan       RBF>>>> SCF         PipeMan     RBSuper     LLCoCo3FPGA Piper SD1>>>> DD          SC6551      VTIO        T2          Pipe CCBKrn>>>> MDir     Shell       Date        DeIniz      Echo Iniz>>>> Link        Load  Save        Unlink>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/3/2017 11:12 PM, Dave Philipsen wrote:>>>>>>>> Yep, it's an FPGA board so it's a synthesized 6809 running at 25 MHz.>>>>> Dave>>>>>>>>>> On 10/3/2017 9:23 PM, Brett Gordon wrote:>>>>>>>>>> I take it your platform is also 6809 based? Cool.. Sounds like a neat>>>>>> idea.  Loads of fun.  kudos on the> bootloader mod - submit patch!>>>>>>>>>>>> brett>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->>>> Coco mailing list>>>> Coco at maltedmedia.com>>>> https://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>>>>>>>>>> -->> Coco mailing list>> Coco at maltedmedia.com>> https://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>>-- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>-- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco