[Coco] ROM Copyrights... copyrights in general...

[Arthur Flexser]

This is Microsoft Support.  I checked with my supervisor, and we think we
have a probable solution to your problem:

Power the machine down and reboot it.  This usually takes care of
situations like yours.

Please let me know if you need further assistance.  Microsoft prides itself
in providing help to our valued customers.

I hope you are having as nice a day as we are here in New Delhi.


On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am currently in a chat with Microsoft support to see if I can find out
> what they want to give us permission to use the ROMs in emulators. I will
> post here when I have an answer. So far, the conversation looks like this:
>
> OK
> Hello Wayne!
> How may I help you today?
> Your case reference for today’s session: 1388097493. Please make note of
> this number for future use.
> I am nhere to find out what can be done, if anything, to enable us (the
> remaining Color Computer/Dragon users) to use the ROM codes from the
> original machines in emulators that are available.
> Wayne, can you please explain me the issue more?
> I am just trained on download, install and activate of Windows and Office
> products, if you want I can connect you with our Windows technical team.
> Well, the computers haven't been made since the 1980s. The Color Computer 3
> stopped being sold in about 1990-93. There are emulators that have been
> made to emulate the hardware, but without the ROM code they are useless. We
> would like to know what Microsoft would want to give us permission to use
> the ROM code from those computers in the emulators that are out there.
> ROM, its an hardware which is not attached with Microsoft.
> Are you referring to the activation code for Windows?
> No. On the old 8-bit computers, the basic language that you saw when you
> turned on the computer was stored in a ROM chip. The Color Computer and
> Dragon computer used a ROM licensed from Microsoft.
> The languages were called Color BASIC, Extended Color BASIC and Enhanced
> Color BASIC
> Let me check with my supervisor, please wait for some time.
> I will wait
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Dennis, I thought I was right on this.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill Pierce
> > "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to
> > slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull
> >
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <bathory at maltedmedia.com>
> > To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> > Sent: Wed, Jun 7, 2017 10:57 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Coco] ROM Copyrights... copyrights in general...
> >
> > On Wed, June 7, 2017 9:26 pm, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:> Something no
> > one has yet to mention or clarify (Dennis?)...> I've always "heard" that
> if
> > you own the original roms, you have the right to> make copies for your
> own
> > personal use... I have no clue if this is true. I> know it did apply to
> > making tape and CD copies of albums I own, but ONLY for> personal use.>
> > "IF" this is true, then many of us have the legal right to have and use
> > copies> of the roms (no, this doesn't cover uploading/downloading
> "illegal"
> > copies).> Personally, I own all versions of CB, ECB, DECB, & SECB. I even
> > have copies of> CB & ECB (1.01?) on RS cassette tape (factory labeled,
> and
> > bought from RS as> an upgrade).{All my copyright comments are US
> only)Since
> > the Sony Betamax case, the courts have held that a copy of any item
> foryour
> > personal use is allowable. You must legally own the original. You
> > mustdestroy the copy if you give away, sell or otherwise dispose of the
> > original.Not legal advice.Dennis-- Coco mailing
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