[Coco] Basic09 versions

Wed Jun 7 02:17:24 EDT 2017

I found a copy of the Dragon Level 1 system disk image and the Dragon Level
1 Basic09 disk image. I find it interesting that RunB is on the system disk
in cmds and basic09 is on the basic09 disk in cmds, and there is no inkey,
gfx or syscall. I know syscall didn't come compiled with level 1, but inkey
and gfx did. I can see where maybe the dragon didn't support the same
graphics calls as the coco, but I would have thought inkey was a must have.

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:

> I'll let you know if I hear back from him.  He was an encouragement to me
> in the early OS9 days and he and another fellow beta-tested SuperComm and
> kept a list of features and ideas they thought would be good additions.  I
> only made it to a couple of the Daltrug meetings over in Dallas back in the
> mid/late 80s but Lee and I communicated fairly often when I was living in
> that area.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
> On 6/7/2017 12:54 AM, L. Curtis Boyle wrote:
>
>> It would be interesting to see how he is doing. I haven’t talked to him
>> much since he moved. Him and David Wordell (?) used to come up to the Fest
>> together.
>> (I hope I am remember that name right).
>>
>> L. Curtis Boyle
>> curtisboyle at sasktel.net
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:46 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I exchanged a couple of emails with him in March of 2014.  At that time
>>> I believe he had moved back to the US and I think he was living in
>>> Oklahoma.  You may know that he lost his wife.  I think it was in 2010.
>>> Even when I talked with him several years later it seemed like he was
>>> really having a hard time with that.
>>>
>>> I'm sending him off an email tonight and we'll see if he responds.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/7/2017 12:34 AM, L. Curtis Boyle wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lee retired to Mexico, and took the Coco 1/serial #0001 with him, last
>>>> time I talked to him (which was the CocoFest before he moved).
>>>>
>>>> L. Curtis Boyle
>>>> curtisboyle at sasktel.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 6, 2017, at 11:18 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmmm....well, it was owned by Lee Veal for many years and I'd have a
>>>>> hard time imagining that he would have ever let go of it.  He was an
>>>>> officer of the Dallas TRS-80 users group (Daltrug) for awhile.  I don't
>>>>> believe he is active on the CoCo scene anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/7/2017 12:12 AM, Wayne Campbell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seems I heard that serial# 000001 was being auctioned off, and I
>>>>>> don't know
>>>>>> who bought it. I might be not remembering this correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:09 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep.  Definitely nostalgic thinking back...it took a lot more work to
>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>> the information / parts you needed.  There are a lot of young people
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> don't know what the world was like without Google!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I remember the countless nights coming home to my apartment in
>>>>>>> Irving, TX
>>>>>>> crunching away on the code for Supercomm and my RuxPro project
>>>>>>> (programming
>>>>>>> system for Teddy Ruxpin that ran under OS9) and others.  I can
>>>>>>> remember my
>>>>>>> original RS 300 baud modem with the switch you flipped when you
>>>>>>> heard the
>>>>>>> carrier on the other end, and how cool it was to upgrade to 1200
>>>>>>> then 2400
>>>>>>> then 9600 then 14,400 bps modems, etc.  and all the hand-soldered
>>>>>>> wires,
>>>>>>> EPROMs, dot-matrix printers, modifications & stuff like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I may have mentioned this before but I knew a fellow down there who
>>>>>>> owned
>>>>>>> a CoCo 1 with serial #000001!  Last time I talked with him a few
>>>>>>> years ago
>>>>>>> he still had it...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/6/2017 11:56 PM, Wayne Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those were the days. You could find just about anything if you looked
>>>>>>>> around. Now, even googling doesn't always return positive results.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The interesting thing is that sometimes I would go down to the
>>>>>>>> warehouse
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and they would have palettes and tables and shelves of discontinued
>>>>>>>>> stuff;
>>>>>>>>> old manuals, software, computers, gadgets, etc. It was a computer
>>>>>>>>> geek's
>>>>>>>>> dream come true.  I guess that's why I was always stopping in to
>>>>>>>>> see what
>>>>>>>>> cool stuff they might have.  There was also a big ham/electronics
>>>>>>>>> flea
>>>>>>>>> market on the first Saturday of every month in Dallas under one of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> freeway overpasses where I would buy RAM chips, EPROMs, CPUs, and
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> sort
>>>>>>>>> of thing.  This was circa 1985-1989.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/2017 11:29 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wayne, I had 2 copies of L1 Basic09 over time, and I don't remember
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> either being a flippy. I know RS never did fully support
>>>>>>>>>> flippies...
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> they'd had to admit their drives were double sided and explain
>>>>>>>>>> why they
>>>>>>>>>> never updated Basic for double sides.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Pierce
>>>>>>>>>> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no
>>>>>>>>>> way to
>>>>>>>>>> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
>>>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
>>>>>>>>>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wed, Jun 7, 2017 12:23 am
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Basic09 versions
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That is definitely the Level 1 version. It would be good to have
>>>>>>>>>> a copy
>>>>>>>>>> inwhatever repository is current. Can you tell me if you remember
>>>>>>>>>> theoriginal floppy being a flippy? I have heard before that it
>>>>>>>>>> had some
>>>>>>>>>> fileson the opposite side, but I never thought about that when I
>>>>>>>>>> had my
>>>>>>>>>> Level 1system.On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:01 PM, Bill Pierce via
>>>>>>>>>> Coco <
>>>>>>>>>> coco at maltedmedia.com>wrote:> Wayne, I have a disk image labeled
>>>>>>>>>> "Basic09_1.0.0.dsk", and on it are> BASIC09, INKEY, RUNB, & GFX
>>>>>>>>>> (no
>>>>>>>>>> directories). When run it displays (level> 1, hence all
>>>>>>>>>> uppercase):>>
>>>>>>>>>> BASIC09> RS VERSION 01.00.00> COPYRIGHT 1980 BY MOTOROLA INC.> AND
>>>>>>>>>> MICROWARE SYSTEMS CORP.> REPRODUCED UNDER LICENSE> TO TANDY
>>>>>>>>>> CORP.> ALL
>>>>>>>>>> RIGHTS RESERVED>> I'm pretty sure it's the same one you are
>>>>>>>>>> referring
>>>>>>>>>> to. I
>>>>>>>>>> remember SYSCALL> was in the manual and you had to assemble it
>>>>>>>>>> with asm
>>>>>>>>>> yourself.>> I probably copied the disk image from my master disk
>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>> drives went> out.> I can upload the disk to Guillaume if
>>>>>>>>>> needed.>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> manual is already in the colorcomputerarchive:>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Manuals/
>>>>>>>>>> Programming/
>>>>>>>>>> BASIC09%20Programming%20Language%20Reference%20Manual%20-%
>>>>>>>>>> 20Revision%20H%>
>>>>>>>>>> 20(Microware%20System%20Corp).pdf>> It is copywritten
>>>>>>>>>> 1980-1984>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bill Pierce> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't
>>>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>>>> going,
>>>>>>>>>> no way to> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull>> My Music
>>>>>>>>>> from the
>>>>>>>>>> Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3>
>>>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/
>>>>>>>>>> dabarnstudio/> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>> E-Mail:
>>>>>>>>>> ooogalapasooo at aol.com>>>>>> -----Original Message-----> From:
>>>>>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>>>>>> Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>> To: CoCoList <coco at maltedmedia.com
>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Jun 6, 2017 10:02 pm> Subject: [Coco] Basic09
>>>>>>>>>> versions>> For
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> long time I have known this, but have not been able to prove it.>
>>>>>>>>>> WhenI
>>>>>>>>>> first got into the CoCo it was a CoCo2 Korean model and OS-9
>>>>>>>>>> Level 1.>
>>>>>>>>>> Ialso had the Level 1 Basic09. When I got my CoCo3 and OS-9 Level
>>>>>>>>>> 2,>
>>>>>>>>>> Icompared the two versions of Basic09. T
>>>>>>>>>> here were only 3 differences.Level> 14K default buffer
>>>>>>>>>> size01.00.00
>>>>>>>>>> version number in the display text at the> top of the moduleCRC
>>>>>>>>>> was not
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> same as Level 2 Basic09Level 28K default> buffer size01.00.01
>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>> number in the display text at the top of the> moduleCRC was not
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> same as
>>>>>>>>>> Level 1 Basic09I have never found a disk> image of the Level 1
>>>>>>>>>> Basic09
>>>>>>>>>> disk. It was soldseparately from OS-9 Level 1.> I have found the
>>>>>>>>>> Dragon
>>>>>>>>>> version of Basic09Level 1 (version 01.00.00), but> it has a
>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>> display text from theCoCo version.I had all but given up> hope of
>>>>>>>>>> ever
>>>>>>>>>> finding a copy of the CoCo Basic09Level 1 disk (or an image).>
>>>>>>>>>> Today I
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> thinking about it, and decided toso some searching. Lo and>
>>>>>>>>>> behold, I
>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>> what appears to be a pristinecopy for sale on EBay. The>
>>>>>>>>>> description
>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>> "untested", but the disk andmanual and box look brand new!> There
>>>>>>>>>> are 3
>>>>>>>>>> photos. The middle photo is acloseup of the disk in its sleeve.>
>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>> lower
>>>>>>>>>> left portion of the exposeddisk shows the version number>
>>>>>>>>>> 01.00.00.I
>>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>>> this! It is for sale for $89.99 or best offer, and the> shipping
>>>>>>>>>> isonly
>>>>>>>>>> $3.61. I have enough cash, but I don't have a credit card.> There
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> 5people watching it, and the time left is 19 days, 20 hours. No>
>>>>>>>>>> one has
>>>>>>>>>> madean offer yet. If I can get my friend to use his card, I am>
>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>> buy ittoday. Once I have it, I will need to know if someone on>
>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>> is herein Los Angeles and can make an image of the disk, and>
>>>>>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>>>>>> scan
>>>>>>>>>> themanual without destroying it. Then I can add them to the>
>>>>>>>>>> archive and
>>>>>>>>>> wewill have the original Basic09 and manual to go with the> Level
>>>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>>> system.Wish me luck on getting it!-- WayneThe Structure of>
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