[Coco] VCC full screen mode and Windows 10

Thu Jun 1 19:02:19 EDT 2017

Steve (and others with simular full screen problems), I've found that one thing that causes issues in full screen mode is the "status" bar which updates steadily during emulation. It's almost like a 2nd window and seems to flicker when in full screen mode. F10 removes the status bar (and flicker) and usually stabilizes the screen, even after turning it back on (no flicker). It's a quick and dirty fix, but it works.

Another thing with full screen vs windowed is that in windowed mode, any Coco program using the <ALT> key (I have a few) is hampered by window's use of the <ALT> key to select menus from the menu bar (ALT-F opens the File menu etc). In full screen, windows keys are blocked and <ALT> works as intended in the Coco emulation. I am usually running VCC on either a 13 inch or 15 inch square monitor, so the aspect ratio is correct on my monitors in both full screen and maximized. I obtained both of these monitors just for use with VCC and the Coco3FPGA so I didn't have to looked at stretched wide screens as I hate that. 

Bill Pierce
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Strowbridge <ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Thu, Jun 1, 2017 4:10 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco] VCC full screen mode and Windows 10

Bill, I went back, and tried again, and I can use F11 and F10 to turn fullscreen on and off again (I'm using Windows 10) and I didn't have the screen"seizure" issue.Also, I have signed up for GitHub, and I have left a few comments on thecurrent list of reported issues, I'll try and report actual ones Iencounter in the future.Steve Strowbridge, akaThe Original Gamer Stevie Strowhttp://ogsteviestrow.comogsteviestrow@gmail.comOn Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Steve Strowbridge <ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>wrote:> Thanks for the information Bill, and hopefully I have not offended anyone> who does work on this, or plans to, I like the product, and I use it, and I> will try and put some of my "two cents" in the proper place on the site.>>> Steve Strowbridge, aka> The Original Gamer Stevie Strow> http://ogsteviestrow.com> ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>>> On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com> > wrote:>>> Steve, we may actually have a new release coming and may have the aspect>> issue resolved. This was an unfinished leftover from the original author>> and with no one working on the project since it's release to open source>> almost 2 years ago, until recently, nothing has changed but the build>> environment from VS6 to VS2015. Things may actually start to get better>> soon.>>>> BTW, unless people post to the "Issues" section of the VCC project github>> site, there's no way to keep up with every FB & cocolist complaint. Listing>> them in the Issues preserves them for whoever finally works on it. It's our>> only checklist to see what problems there are.>>>> https://github.com/VCCE/VCC/issues>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Pierce>> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to>> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull>>>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3>> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>>>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----->> From: Steve Strowbridge <ogsteviestrow at gmail.com>>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>>> Sent: Thu, Jun 1, 2017 1:00 pm>> Subject: Re: [Coco] VCC full screen mode and Windows 10>>>> I've had issues with VCC and switching full screen as well, which I try>> toavoid, it does do a hard switch to your computer's resolution and>> doesn'tgracefully return the OS to it's previous state, and, as mentioned,>> thisresolution switch screws with how you had icons arranged on your>> desktop,etc., and yes, I keep my drivers up to date all the time, I'm>> leaningtowards this being the program not the driver.  Not meant as a bash,>> butmore as a highly educated guess/opinion.As mentioned it can be maximized>> and re-sized, by turning on that option,but it doesn't scale the aspect>> ratio, and it's damn near impossible tomanually make the "perfect square">> by dragging it around.I have learned to live with it either in it's native>> size of in a distortedresolution size when I'm just working on typing in my>> BASIC code.  I don'tsee a newer version since 2.01b [Edit] and I recall>> hearing a few peopletalk about some forks they were working on, which is>> the latest/greatestversion we should be using?I use VCC primarily for my>> programming in BASIC series I'm doing for myselfand YouTube, as far as CoCo>> emulators go, this one is pretty user friendlyto install and hit the ground>> running with, and my series was designed andaimed at non-technophiles to be>> as user friendly as possible.My arrangement I use to record, has the BASIC>> manual in PDF and VCC on myleft monitor, and on my right monitor I have my>> recording/capture softwaretake these elements and arrange them on screen.I>> keep VCC in it's default resolution and aspect ration, but I zoom it inwith>> my software and make the window much larger, where it's about 3/4 ofmy PC>> screen, and it's a lot easier to read and manage that way.The ongoing>> debate and discussion on which emulator is "best" will probablynever be>> "solved" everyone has their favorite, each one has it's strengthsand>> weaknesses, and anybody who has a project, such as an emulator has theright>> to make them as they see fit.I tend to bounce between all three at this>> point.  I use VCC for my BASICprogramming series, I'll use XROAR for a>> quick and easy way to play a CoCo1/2 disk based game, and then I use MAME>> for things that are cartridgebased, or have some issue in XROAR, and for>> anything CoCo 3 related, I usemy real CoCo 3 which is connected to my PC>> via an RGB-toS-Video adapter,and I watch it, play it and record it on my PC>> via video capture softwarewhich give me a live preview of the CoCo>> screen.Simple, right?I am very grateful for all the emulators we have, no>> one, and not thing isperfect, so none of my statements are meant as a>> "bash" or a "nod" towardsany particular product, I like them all, I use>> them all, and they're allgreat in their own way.Steve Strowbridge, akaThe>> Original Gamer Stevie Strowhttp://ogsteviestrow.como>> gsteviestrow at gmail.comOn Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 2:06 AM, Wayne Campbell <>> asa.rand at gmail.com> wrote:> Thanks, Bill. I never saw that option>> before. It's set now. The screen> looks a little wierd stretched in the>> width, but it's livable. :)>>> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:56 PM, Bill Pierce>> via Coco <> coco at maltedmedia.com>> wrote:>> > Wayne, VCC DOES support>> the maximize button. You must check "Allow> Resize"> > in the>> Config/Display" tab.> > I've run VCC on WinXP, Vista, 7, 8, & 10 on square,>> wide screen and> double> > monitors, and the full screen didn't act as you>> describe, nor has anyone> > else complained of this problem. In full screen>> mode, VCC changes the> video> > resolution (800x600, IIRC) and it sounds>> like your graphics driver isn't> > taking it well... Try updating your>> graphics driver.> >> >> >> >> >> > Bill Pierce> > "Charlie stole the>> handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to> > slow down!" - Ian>> Anderson - Jethro Tull> >> > My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color>> Computer 2 & 3> > https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/> >>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia> > http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/>> index.php/Main_Page> >> > E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com> >> >> >> >> >>>> > -----Original Message-----> > From: Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>>>> > To: CoCoList <coco at maltedmedia.com>> > Sent: Wed, May 31, 2017 11:56>> pm> > Subject: [Coco] VCC full screen mode and Windows 10> >> > I finally>> tried putting VCC into full screen mode today. I like the way> > itlooks,>> but I don't like what it does to the Windows 10 windows when I> > goback to>> normal mode.Every window I have open, as well as a few apps> that> > I>> don't, are in theupper-left corner of the screen and are all the same> >>> size as the normal VCCwindow. It took me some time to get them back the>>> way> > I had them before. Idon't think this is the way VCC should>> behave.Along> > with a fix to this, I would like to see VCC support the>> maximizebutton> and> > maximize the window instead of forcing the user to>> usefull-screen. I need> > to switch windows alot and full-screen does not>> makethis easy. And with> my> > eyes these days, the normal window is almost>> toosmall to read.Thanks to> all> > of you who are working to make VCC>> better. This isn't acomplaint as much> as> > a feature request.-- WayneThe>> Structure of I-Codehttp://www.cocopedia.> > com/wiki/index.php/The_Structure_of_I-Codedecodehttp:>>> > //cococoding.com/wayne/-- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://>>> > pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco> >> > --> > Coco mailing>> list> > Coco at maltedmedia.com> > https://pairlist5.pair.net/mai>> lman/listinfo/coco> >>>>> --> Wayne>> The Structure of I-Code>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/The_Structure_of_I-Code>>>> decode> http://cococoding.com/wayne/>> --> Coco mailing list>>> Coco at maltedmedia.com> https://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>-->> Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/l>> istinfo/coco>>>> -->> Coco mailing list>> Coco at maltedmedia.com>> https://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>>>>-- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco