[Coco] Conversion utility for Program Pak Images

Zippster zippster278 at gmail.com
Tue Feb 14 11:03:44 EST 2017


I think so Ron.

- Ed


> On Feb 14, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps this is only related to 32K ROMs?
> 
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 9:59 AM, Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> I may have misunderstood an older email comment from Robert Gault.  You
>> can see his comments toward the bottom of the post.  I was looking for
>> information prior to my posting and came across this...
>> 
>> Robert Gault <robert.gault at att.net>
>> 1/26/16
>> to CoCoList
>> OK, after writing an ml routine to print data to the screen I can report
>> what a Coco3 sees in the external ROM with 16k / 16k internal external and
>> 32k external.
>> 
>> The most reasonable way to present this is that the 32k ROM always exists
>> from $8000-$FF00 and when the Coco3 is in standard 16k internal 16k
>> external mode, it sees the second half of the external ROM.
>> So my program when using 16k/16k saw the Extended Basic ROM at $8000 and
>> the second half of the cart ROM at $C000. When the program set 32k
>> external, then it saw the first half of the external ROM at $8000 and the
>> same data (second half ROM) at $C000.
>> Can I prove that a ROM reader would see the same thing? No I can't, but I
>> expect it would. It makes sense because it is the only way a 32k ROM would
>> not get lost when switching from 16k/16k to 32k external.
>> 
>> And then how does this relate to .ccc files? These files do NOT present
>> the ROM as seen by a Coco3. The halves are reversed with the second half
>> preceding the first!
>> This makes no sense to me but someone must have decided that one of the
>> emulators JVC, MESS, or VCC could handle a 32k ROM cart more easily in this
>> fashion. That format then became the standard for .ccc files regardless
>> if it was reasonable.
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 9:36 AM, John W. Linville <linville at tuxdriver.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 07:01:48AM -0600, Ron Klein wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know of a way to convert Program Pak images (*.ccc) to a
>>>> standard ROM file?  I heard the *.ccc format is mainly designed for
>>>> emulator use and not something that can be burned (or flashed).
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> 
>>>> -Ron
>>> 
>>> AFAIK, the *.ccc format is just a flat binary -- the same as what
>>> you would burn into an EPROM.
>>> 
>>> If you have other documentation, I would love to see it!
>>> 
>>> John
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