[Coco] Nitros9 and Smartwatch

Gene Heskett gheskett at shentel.net
Sat Dec 10 20:06:26 EST 2016


On Saturday 10 December 2016 19:45:19 L. Curtis Boyle wrote:

> Gene... I think you are think of Shellplus's wildcarding system, not
> the DIR command that Alan and I worked on. (The latter didn't care how
> big a directory was, as it processed the wildcard match for each
> entry, not trying to fill the Shell's command line buffer, like
> utilities like CP (copy) did.
>
> Sent from my iPhone

I do believe you are correct, Curtis, as I was a shellplus user for 
yonks. Wet ram memory isn't always foolproof unfortunately.  And mine is 
starting on its 83rd trip around the star we call the Sun or Sol.

> > On Dec 10, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at shentel.net> 
wrote:
> >> On Saturday 10 December 2016 17:01:42 L. Curtis Boyle wrote:
> >>
> >> Robert is correct in that some things have changed - the ‘-‘ sign
> >> on a lot of commands is one. TMODE and XMODE are radically
> >> different than the original OS-9 (and if you pull down some older
> >> OS-9 programs that fork out to these commands, they will not work
> >> properly without patching). So, you are correct in that we need
> >> some proper documentation (even just documenting
> >> differences/additions would be helpful). Another issue is that some
> >> commands in later NitrOS-9 (DIR is a prime example for me) have
> >> actually gone backwards from original NitrOS-9. As of version 2.01
> >> of NitrOS-9, DIR had wildcard support (both * and ?), and extra
> >> options for recursive directory searches, etc. Then, for some
> >> unknown (to me) reason, that new “standard version” disappeared,
> >> and it went back to stock OS-9 in functionality, but with the ‘-‘
> >> now required. And there are other examples like this as well.
> >>
> >>
> >> L. Curtis Boyle
> >> curtisboyle at sasktel.net
> >>
> >> TRS-80 Color Computer Games website
> >> http://www.lcurtisboyle.com/nitros9/coco_game_list.html
> >>
> >>> On Dec 10, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Robert Gault <robert.gault at att.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> To add to Bill's comments, the NitrOS-9 WIKI is at
> >>> https://sourceforge.net/p/nitros9/wiki/Main_Page/
> >>>
> >>> There are some differences between OS-9 and NitrOS-9 which are
> >>> minor but confusing. Many of the commands can take parameters and
> >>> some have been changed. For example, in OS-9 the command dir can
> >>> have two parameters: x display current execution directory, e
> >>> display full description of each file. However, in NitrOS-9 these
> >>> parameters now require the - sign: dir -x   or  dir -e .
> >>>
> >>> As it happens, the built in Help function indicates the syntax for
> >>> dir. help dir
> >>>
> >>> and you will get
> >>>
> >>> Syntax: Dir [<opts>] [<path>]
> >>> Usage : Displays formatted list of file names in a directory
> >>> Opts  :
> >>> -e = extended dir
> >>> -x = execution dir
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately not all commands or programs are included in Help
> >>> but you could edit the SYS/helpmsg file to include new
> >>> command/program names. Also some programs have their own built-in
> >>> help messages. Unfortunately many of these have been turned off in
> >>> the current NitrOS-9 build. You could edit the source code to turn
> >>> on the built-in help and recompile the programs.
> >>>
> >>> Robert
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> > I wasn't all that disappointed that the wildcard expansion
> > disappeared. The expansion was handy, when its output could be
> > contained in shells limited line buffer.  But if you wildcarded it
> > in a directory with hundreds of files, the resultant hate &
> > discontent, and the possibility of major filesystem damage made it
> > less than an altogether nice experience.  IMO its safer w/o that
> > ability.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > --
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> >
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
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